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Old 08-22-2010 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dadwolf2
WOW, that's amazing.

I just checked CA DMV and apparently I was wrong If I had one more axle I would need the CDL. It stated that if you are over 6k with three axles you need the CDL but since I'm two axles, 11.5k but under 26k combo...I fit in between the requirements

Seriously, appreciate your research and friendly debate.
No problem, I hope it helped somehow.

I'm coming to realize just how different state regs can be in comparison to the feds. I do a lot of proof-reading and verbiage suggesting for the NHTSA, so I get somewhat familiar with a lot of their stuff. I also get some rather unusual answers when I ask questions too... in other words, they don't know their own meanings half the time any better than the rest of us!
Old 08-22-2010 | 08:20 PM
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you need a usdot if you are hauling from state to state even if its your own stuff. I was informed this by an actually nice iowa dot officer. I was hauling old barnwood that was not for resale but for a project i was doing back in tx
Old 08-22-2010 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dadwolf2
Well, around here, it's close to 2 grand to get a Class A CDL so I would call that a big deal!! I do believe beginners would get a lot of useful info and training but as a person who has gone through the school of hard knocks/experience already....WOW, that's a lot of money and time off of work to go to a truck driving school for my 30' 5th wheel. (of course that varies depending on the 26k combo or 10k rule).
For the next couple of years you can get a CDL without certified training . They are trying to work out training requirements but it will be at least 2 or 3 years before it goes into effect .
Old 08-23-2010 | 12:50 AM
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i hired a commercial driver and paid him by the hour to tutor me and go with me to the DMV. (i didn't have any cdl friends). i have a class A cdl without airbrakes.

i have a not for hire USDOT # to be able to haul my own equipment and personal property across state lines from CA to NM. the trailer is 14k, but AZ counts the two axles on the truck and two axles on the trailer to add up to 4 axles that exceeds the 3 axle rule. they also state that because my combined length is over 40' that qualifies for fees and usdot. i just smile and pay the fees. these guys drive me nuts. CA #, CDL, USDOT, URC, logs, inspections, safety audits, physicals, ntea for incomplete vehicle, fed and state regs manuals, etc.
never check the box for usdot that states moving belongings that puts you into a whole new can of worms as a "mover".
Old 08-23-2010 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rich
you need a usdot if you are hauling from state to state even if its your own stuff. I was informed this by an actually nice iowa dot officer. I was hauling old barnwood that was not for resale but for a project i was doing back in tx
Even if you are moving your own property from one home to another?
Old 08-23-2010 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rfeiller
never check the box for usdot that states moving belongings that puts you into a whole new can of worms as a "mover".
Tell me about it! I just updated my DOT# so as to be 100% legal for my upcoming trip. I checked off the box that applied to carrying motor vehicles because we're going to have our Jeep on the back of the truck. Well, they now classify a motor vehicle as 'hazardous material' because it has a gas tank. So the form got bumped back to me so I could check one little box. After I did that, the form got bumped back to me again because the hazard class is defined as 'packaged'; the gas is packaged in the tank. Why they couldn't tell me this stuff when I had them on the phone, or put a little sticky note on the bumped back form, I'll never figure out.
Old 08-23-2010 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by annabelle
Even if you are moving your own property from one home to another?
As long as you are not selling anything, like if you were hauling hay or anything else that you bought and then was going to resale. If its your own furniture or stuff to say another home like a winter summer deal then no your fine.
Old 08-23-2010 | 10:33 PM
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As long as you are not selling anything, like if you were hauling hay or anything else that you bought and then was going to resale. If its your own furniture or stuff to say another home like a winter summer deal then no your fine.
I'll be moving some hay ( it will be for my own use)......I also will be moving some small construction Equipment ( walk behind concrete saw, trailer mounted welder, compactor) but just to get them to my new diggs.
Old 08-24-2010 | 12:01 AM
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you'll be fine as long as your trailer doesnt put you over 26k. If it does at least make sure your dl is the correct class for it.
Old 08-24-2010 | 05:41 PM
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Tow a 15000# horse trailer and have the Nevada Class c with a "J" endoresment for towing trailers over 10000#.
Old 08-24-2010 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rich
As long as you are not selling anything, like if you were hauling hay or anything else that you bought and then was going to resale. If its your own furniture or stuff to say another home like a winter summer deal then no your fine.
I'm not sure of that rich. When I updated my DOT number one of the options was for 'not for hire, transporting own property'. Makes me think that it doesn't matter if you own what you're hauling and there's no compensation, a number is still needed? Why would the option be there in the first place if no number was required?

Not attacking you BTW, just thinking out loud.
Old 08-24-2010 | 09:09 PM
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no you could be right, but i think thats if its your own for resale. The laws change every year, i honestly dont remember that being one of the options when i applied for my usdot number.
Old 08-25-2010 | 12:02 AM
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I'll talk to TXDOT in the morning and I'll ask their opinion......I'll let you know what they say.
Old 08-25-2010 | 06:50 AM
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no you could be right, but i think thats if its your own for resale. The laws change every year, i honestly dont remember that being one of the options when i applied for my usdot number.
Oh I'm SURE it wasn't there when I originally got mine. Of course that was back in 1990-something too. And the re-sale thing is a good point. I didn't think of that.
Old 08-25-2010 | 10:55 AM
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Austin says as long as I'm not exceeding 26,000 lbs in weight, 65' in length, 14' in height, and 8'6" in width, I don't need a permit. My local DOT office had no clue!


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