I need to haul a standard 5th wheel trailor (semi) with my dodge 1 ton. Is there a 5th wheel adapter out there or somthing so I do not have to remove the box??? An other words a
rv type sits to low ,,,any ideas???
thanx :-

 

King pin hight for trailers are standard to a point. You can back a big truck under an RV and pull it away, have done it before. The RV hitch is roughly the right hight as the big truck trailer kingpin. Generally 22.5 wheeled trailers are level at 48 inches. 24.5 wheeled trailers are level at about 52 inches. About the lowest you can go is 46 or so inches and then you will have a little foreward tilt. There is not much way that you can clear the pickup bed without the nose being way too high. For a standard big truck trailer you would have to remove the bed and go for a king pin hight of 46 or so.

Another problem comes up. RV trailers have a 0 inch king pin setting from the nose of the trailer and most even are set foreward. To turn a 96" wide trailer you need 52 inches to clear the cab with the side of the trailer. Most commercial trailers built for small trucks also have the 0 inch setting. A big truck trailer generally has a 36" king pin setting. Longer trailers have a 48" setting. A 96" wide trailer with a 36" kingpin setting with some rounding of the corners requires 5'6" to clear the corners for turns. Your truck is not long enough.

A big truck trailer unless it is all alumimum is over 10,000 pounds and is a full semi so the kingpin weight is roughly half of the weight of the trailer. That means 5000 pounds or better for an empty trailer. I haul 5000 king pin weight dailey but with that much weight you need the kingpin in front of the axle. So you cannot mount the kingpin behind the axle to allow turns. Without stretching the truck you cannot pull a full sized trailer.

 

yes sir;
but somewhere some way someone must make a adapter to raise it up a bit to clear the sides...I think i have even seen them somewhere

 

I think you may have missed the point of what he was saying.

 

i did not miss the pt, I drive a rig for a living..I just happen to have a situation here,and its a long story.
I just want a adapter that wiil make the 5th wheel a little higher then the pick up bed. simlple (i think).

 

i did not miss the pt, I drive a rig for a living..I just happen to have a situation here,and its a long story.
I just want a adapter that wiil make the 5th wheel a little higher then the pick up bed. simlple (i think).
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I'll try to answer you....No One makes an adapter so you can move a semi-trailer because this would be dangerous and in some states against the law....all big rig trailers have air brakes....and to move it with a truck without air brakes you would need to disable the brakes (cage them)....second because the semi pin plate is flat it will not clear the pickup bed sides

If this is a one time move maybe a nearby truck driver would help you out

 

From what I read if he has a SRW he should be OK.
If you do it be sure and send a picture for the website.

 

this trailor im talking about is weird and diff and a long long story, so w.o. triying to be rude, I Know all that and this one has electric over hyd. brakes, and the platfrom for the 5er is about 2by2 feet and will actually sit dwn in the bed ,,,,but not much of turning radi because the sides of the bed.
Now back to the ADAPTER.....
thanks ....I have actually seen these somewhere maybe it was in a space time continuim or something

 

I don't know if any of THESE will help you, but I'm not sure that I've seen anything else like what you're talking about. You may have to fabricate something to raise the hitch up to where you want it.

 

That is becoming a strong reality......thanks

 

Just curious Thumper,....how much does this thing weigh? ???

 

about 11500 lbs. why are you ,or what are you thinking ?/
?? ?

 

Just wondering if the suspension would handle the pin weight.

 

If you drive for a living, maybe it would be possible to use the company rig? If you have to buy or construct an adapter it maybe cheaper to rent a single axle tractor for the day?
Just my 0.02 so take it for what its worth.