Stealth06Ram

Hey,

So I am new to the Dodge 5.9, but I have been towing trailer for quite a while. I am contemplating getting a Bumper Pull Toy hauler. I have this observation.

If the GCWR is (06 2500 Mega 4x4) is 20,000, and the GVWR is 9,000, Then the max trailer I can pull is 11,000 right? Not 12,400, as stated.

Now, let me state, regardles of Bumper Vs. Goose Vs. 5vr, Based on this obversation, the Max is 11,000.

Concurrence?

Stealth

JD Dearden

Well this is a hard question to answer it isn't the engine that is the issue, but I pull 16k to 20k all the time but I have air ride, tires that gross at 10k each, 3" trac bars, big stupid clutch and so on, but I will tell you this you won't even know 10k is back there.

roadgeneral

As I know this rating:

GCWR=The weight of your truck plus the weight of your trailer. The two vehicles in combination. If the GCWR is 20000 and your truck weighs 7000, your truck can pull a trailer weighing 13000.

GVWR=The total weight your truck can carry. If your truck weighs 7000, you can load 2000 of cargo. Example: A camper weighing no more than 2000.

Bonshawman

an estimate:
bumper pull an transfer 10% of trailer weight to truck.
GVWR of truck, less curb weight (on scale) = available for fuel, passengers, gear & load.
GVWR of truck + GVWR of trailer = combined GVWR.
Can't exceed combined weights, truck GVW (including weight transfer to truck from trailer), or axle ratings on either truck or trailer.

My 3500 weighs 8200#, has GVWR of 12,200, so I have 4,000# "available". My deck over has GVW of 20,000#. Combined GVWR = 32,200. Combined curb weight = 14,200. Availble for load: 18,000#. On that set up, 25% of the trailer transfers to the truck. Empty = 1500 added to 8,200 on truck for 9,700, leaving 4500# sitting on the trailer axles. If I add the full 18,000#, I would OVERLOAD my truck rear axle, and my truck would now be at 14,200, which is 2,000# OVER truck GVW.

Again, the truck GVW can't be exceeded - I must stay under 12,200, plus watch my rear truck axle rating. So you can see why just simple math doesn't work.

Know what your truck weighs in at empty (curb weight), then hook up the trailer. Combined weight on a scale will also show what your rear truck axle weight has increased to. Take the overall combvined weight, subtract the (known) truck weight, and you'll have the trailer weight, as well as what % transfers to the truck. Look at your combined weight RATINGS, and then you'll know what cargo you can carry.

Hope this helps....

huntr70

Don't forget that if you get a hitch pull trailer and use a weight distributing hitch (which you will want for a toyhauler) that some of that weight will transfer to the FRONT axle also.

Bonshawman

Interesting point on front axle transfer - about 6% of total pin weight transfers on BOTH of my trailers to the front axle, although the weight transfer on the deck over is total 25%, and the 44' enclosed is 33%....I thought more would transfer with the heavier trailer, but it did not. Both are goosenecks.

tool

Your GVWR (9000#) does not mean that your truck weighs 9000#. As others have said your Total combined weight rating is the one you need to know. 20,000# - actual weight of the truck = The max weight of the trailer you are rated to haul (keeping into consideration proper balance and loading of the trailer to not exceed tongue weights/ axle weights)

roadgeneral

Bonshawman...

You've got a lot of toys. Where do you live, at a wrecking yard? I'll take that 54 Merc..............like back in my high-school days. They were really something back then. First Ford overhead V8..............sweet ride. I grew up roddin' around with flatheads. I had several.....'48 Ford, 2-door sedan and '51 Ford coupe to name a few. Those were the days.

Bonshawman

No...well not at least after the last hurricane cleanup 2 years ago

Got 'em spread around abit - the Merc is a sweet ride. Ah....we yearn for the past (except I DO like my 3rd gen....)