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#1
I need to know!
I need to know what to do? I purchased a 2006 Sandpiper 315bht (Forest River)new last year and had alot of problems with it.Today it continued,jacks don't work furnace won't light,trip is cancelled. I fixed the jacks(fuse) The furnance finally lite and did not blow very good,and now it don't work at all. I posted all my previous problems before.And now the list has been added to.The dealer has been good but its a long drive to get there and it takes time to fix these things.I sooo want out.This has caused much disruption in my life and family.I love rving with my family,but I'm just about out of patience,this just ruined our easter break vacation that can never be brought back.I'm beyond angry.I wish had some recourse on this thing.I could put up a post twice this long covering all my problems last year.Tell me something!!
#2
I bought a new Sandpiper 23' travel trailer in 2002 and had problems with hot water tank not lighting and building gas and then it would try and light which would cause a little explosion and almost blow the door off of the hot water tank. Took back to the dealer twice, second time they replaced the circuit board. No more problems. Have they replaced yours? If not, it's worth a shot.
#4
all trailers are junk! they are designed to start to fall apart the minute you hook up, for 20 to 40 thousand dollars they should not have any problems for five years.... i bought a 30 foot fiver in 1997 and pulled it about 15000 miles in ten years ..... now it's junk, both inside and especially outside
#5
Unfortunatly your right John,I only have about 3000 miles on mine and I'm frustrated. My old pop ups and my first TT had fewer problems combined then I've had with this thing.I looked into unloading this thing and I'm finding out fast that its not going to happen.I guess I'll have to add another page to my list of things I can do.(TT repair)I would not mind if this thing had some age or miles under it,but this is just to soon.But, again your correct,all these are junk.Its not a matter of if you'll have problems,but when.To bad all mine have happened far away from home or when I was about to go far away from home.If it were not for my kids, I'd bail out.
#6
Well i wish i could say you all were just full of it and that i was happy with mine but i would be the one who was full of it. we got ours right before i got back from Iraq and now weve been living in it for about two weeks and man is this thing falling apart on us the ceiling is warping, the trim is falling off the walls, oh man i could go on and on. Shoot weve only pulled the thing about 100 miles or so if that. Well bumpytruck if you got the 06 315bht and i got the 07 315bht looks like im in for a bumpy trip. Or maybe just maybe forest river got their stuff together in one year and fixed all of the probs with these things. But we all no better than that.
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#8
I have a 1995 35 foot Gulfstream tag along bought it new.. used very extensively with 3 kids and a 2 dogs. The only problem I have ever had is I had to replace the circuit board on the Dometic fridge 2 years ago. other things ar normal items tires battery. Its holding up very well .
I bought this truck with the intention of buying a 5er Toy hauler... may need to rethink it .
I bought this truck with the intention of buying a 5er Toy hauler... may need to rethink it .
#9
Trailer life expectancy
I have had both new and used trailers. I use them hard, do most of my own maintainance, and use them for extended trips. We drag one south in the winter, live in it for 3 months, and spend September in the high country, and pull it down really tight places, on very bad roads. The idea is to be careful.
Currently I own 1984 Avion. It is built like it was carved out of one block of aluminum. It is solid. It has a few dings from hail stones, and truck rocks, but still looks great. I recently did some fiberglass work on the front window guard. the woodwork is beautiful. Real wood cabinets.
I replaced the appliances, and have to fix a couple of small items.
consider this: If you had to drag your house down the road at 60-70 miles an hour, and didn't put any more maintainance work into it than you do on a stationary houe, it would look like crap too. Or worse than your trailer.
It is true that there are a lot of companies who build lightweight, understrength, rigs, but a few are top notch, and will last if taken care of. Many people don't really know what they are buying. They look at the well lit display, and don't realize the walls are paper thin, the floors will disintigrate if they get wet, there isn't any insulation or solid decking, the utilities are 3d rate.
Buying a used, upscale older model was a real payoff for me.
Currently I own 1984 Avion. It is built like it was carved out of one block of aluminum. It is solid. It has a few dings from hail stones, and truck rocks, but still looks great. I recently did some fiberglass work on the front window guard. the woodwork is beautiful. Real wood cabinets.
I replaced the appliances, and have to fix a couple of small items.
consider this: If you had to drag your house down the road at 60-70 miles an hour, and didn't put any more maintainance work into it than you do on a stationary houe, it would look like crap too. Or worse than your trailer.
It is true that there are a lot of companies who build lightweight, understrength, rigs, but a few are top notch, and will last if taken care of. Many people don't really know what they are buying. They look at the well lit display, and don't realize the walls are paper thin, the floors will disintigrate if they get wet, there isn't any insulation or solid decking, the utilities are 3d rate.
Buying a used, upscale older model was a real payoff for me.
#10
i bought my 04 warrior new and have almost 20,000 miles on it. so far all i've had to deal with is the dometic recall. and that isn't even a problem yet, no leaks or anything and the fridge still works like the day i first started using it. not praising warrior or anything close to it, just stating some facts for the use of the group.
#11
I would have considered buying an upscale used fifth wheel,howevrer I needed a bunkhouse,and those are only available in the middle of the road to lower end trailers.And they have only been offered recently.You can now get some upper end models in the bunkhouse style, but they are limited.And not readily available used,and affordable.
#12
Bumpy: I agree that you have to live with what's available in what you are needing. I went to a RV show in Iowa, where I thought at least the manufacturers have to live with a real world of severe cold etc. I simply could not believe the scads of RVs that where thin walled, and flimsy, and the floor plans with absolutely no thought for physical placement of human beings. And the prices. Well, suffice it to say, the industry thinks the customers are absolute idiots. I asked a salesman: "What, did you think no one was going to knock on the walls?" When I did so, the entire trailer shook.
Bunks that only hold about 50 pounds, wasted dead space, inadequate insulation, inadequate strength in the toy hauler area, flimsy ramps. it goes on. And I really noticed, "Upscale" doesn't necessarily mean solidly built, it just means glitter in the living area (to attract the female) and high dollar amount.
When the kids where still with us, I put them in tents outside. Even in pretty cold weather. They had mountaineering grade equipment, no one was cold or wet. The RV was for the wife, anyway, and for when I decided to stop sleeping on the ground.
There's only two of us now, so ....We love our 84 Avion. It is solid, has a full belly pan, a heater vent that blows on the water and holding tanks, real wood cabinets, a floor plan we can use plenty of storage and solid, solid.
As to the original question: 1. Are there lemon laws to cover RV's? 2. Will the dealer sit down with you and give you a fair exchane based on your recurrent and documented woes? (In other words, will he back up his sale? Talk to the owner, NOT the salesman) 3. Are you willing to sue if it comes to it (I hope the heck you documented EVERYTHING)?
Best wishes. I hope you can resolve this. BTW, you don't have to have a trailer to go camping for spring break with your family. Load up the truck, take an extra car if you need the passenger space, and get the heck out of town with your kids. They'll have just as much fun. Don't cancel the trip just because you don't have to haul that heavy gas eating rig behind you. GO!
Bunks that only hold about 50 pounds, wasted dead space, inadequate insulation, inadequate strength in the toy hauler area, flimsy ramps. it goes on. And I really noticed, "Upscale" doesn't necessarily mean solidly built, it just means glitter in the living area (to attract the female) and high dollar amount.
When the kids where still with us, I put them in tents outside. Even in pretty cold weather. They had mountaineering grade equipment, no one was cold or wet. The RV was for the wife, anyway, and for when I decided to stop sleeping on the ground.
There's only two of us now, so ....We love our 84 Avion. It is solid, has a full belly pan, a heater vent that blows on the water and holding tanks, real wood cabinets, a floor plan we can use plenty of storage and solid, solid.
As to the original question: 1. Are there lemon laws to cover RV's? 2. Will the dealer sit down with you and give you a fair exchane based on your recurrent and documented woes? (In other words, will he back up his sale? Talk to the owner, NOT the salesman) 3. Are you willing to sue if it comes to it (I hope the heck you documented EVERYTHING)?
Best wishes. I hope you can resolve this. BTW, you don't have to have a trailer to go camping for spring break with your family. Load up the truck, take an extra car if you need the passenger space, and get the heck out of town with your kids. They'll have just as much fun. Don't cancel the trip just because you don't have to haul that heavy gas eating rig behind you. GO!
#15
I have yet to read a good report on a Forest River TT. Have to say our Sunnybrook, a '99, has been flawless. I'm not knocking FR but over on RV.net when I did research, FR never got a very good review. There are definately problems with many TTs but also seems many folks don't have issues at all. Might look at RV.net and see if there is anyone who can help. They may know ways to work with FR to get some satisfaction.