I thought the stock tires were 32''? If you had a 3500, atleast longbed I'd think you'd have a chance. 12K jeeps + atleast 5500lb minimum trailer your lookin at 17.5-18K + 7K truck. The pin weight is gunna pretty much max out your tires. I'm thinking about getting better tires for our dually, just a front spacer and 35's so I can get around the ranch. Stock tires suck.

 

My old roommate dodgediesel4x4 is running a 4.5" lift with 35" tires and is pulling a 25' dual tandem flat bed. The trailer sits almost perfectly level unloaded. We put my truck up on the trailer for fun and it squated the truck about 3-4". Last time I heard the trailer was pulling great for him. But he was also sitting at 402hp.

 

That is my truck

sorry for the confusion, Rims are 16 x 8 and possibly for sale soon, and the tires are 285/75/16 liberator all terrains. The tread is about 10 inches wide and the tires are 33" tall.

Tyler, that woulda made a cool pic for your gallery!

Rick

 

Alright, I found out that the trailer weighs 7,000 lbs by itself. The Jeeps are actually less than 6,000 though.
The trailer already has the springs over the axles so it sits a little higher than most. I was thinking I could do a SOA if it was indeed too low, so much for that idea. I think it will hook up just fine though, the neck risers are 69 inches off the ground and my bed is 64 inches high unloaded... shouldn't be a problem.

 

My question is why do you think that you need a 34' trailer? You don't need anything close to that long. I have had a short box and a long box truck on a 32' trailer, it was tight but they fit. You should be able to out them on a 25' or a little longer trailer. I wouldn't get a trailer any longer then what you need. If you have never pulled a goose neck a 34' is going to seem like pulling a house. A 32' trailer is hard enough to get around, I would hate to have to pull a 34' if I didn't really need it. JMHO

 

Like I said, the trailer will be heavy.

My Ramcharger (1/2 ton truck basically) only weighs 5250, and it has big tires and axles too.

you should be able to get away with a 25-27 ft trailer if all yer hauling is 2 jeeps. I could fit them on my 24 ft trailer if need be.

Now, are your truck tires rated for the load ? A lot of bfg at's aren't.

I forgot about the exhaust brake...yeah, that would add the braking power needed, but would do nothing about the huge sidewalls flexing on emergency manuevers.

If yer truck weighs in at 7000 lbs, and the trailer is 7000 lbs, and the jeeps are 5500 each, yer sitting dangerously close to needing a cdl...private or not. And that is with no gear, tools, or passengers.

 

Yes, I believe it would.

 

My Jeep needs 15 feet of trailer room. The other Jeep needs 13 feet. A smaller trailer would be fine for "just" the Jeeps, but I have other things to haul as well, such as my 20 foot long offroad Ram and my brother's 18 foot long Z71 offroad truck. What I'm thinking about is hauling my 15 foot long Jeep Scrambler, and the 18 foot long Z71 together on occasion so he doesn't have to drive to the trails. That is 33 feet and the extra 3 feet will be great to have so I'm not sitting on the edge.
I already have two bumper pull 20 foot trailers, this one will be for when I want to haul more than one vehicle at a time.

Good point about the BFG's, they are D load rated. I will look for some other tires. My sidewalls aren't "that" huge, not like the 44's on 16.5 inch wheels I have. I'll put air bags in the rear to keep the rear from sagging and swaying too much, will run a sway bar back there if I need to.

I'm going to look at the trailer tomorrow night after work to make sure it will work, then picking up my turnover ball hitch. I should have the trailer by the beginning of next week.

 

maybe not, but it doesn't take much sidewall to give problems.

I am used to 39" tsl's on 15" rims, so I would have a bit more than you.

I was thinking 2 cj style jeeps, the scrambler is longer.

Your jeeps aren't much shorter than my RC is at 16 ft.

I personally want to find a 32' GN myself so I can haul 2 RC's on it. Bad part is, I'd only need one that long maybe once a year, and the rest of the time, it'd be too big for my needs.

know anyone who will rent one for about 2 weeks next sept/oct ?

 

Tire info:

BFG AT's, 37x12.50r17 D, rated at 3525 #'s at 50 psi.
Toyo MT's, 37x13.50r17 E, rated at 4300 #'s at 65 psi max.
Goodyear MT/R's, 37x12.50r17 E, rated at 3195 #'s at 65 psi max.

So how much tongue weight are we talking about, do you think, with a 7000 lb trailer, and 12,000 lbs worth of rigs worst case scenario? I would put the heaviest vehicle on the rear of the trailer so the dual tandem axles would take a lot of that.

 

Don't be fooled by the bigger number load rating on the D tire. That number is what the tire is rated at on the tread, the letter rating is what the tire is designed for on the sidewalls. So just because it has a higher number than the E rated tire doesn't mean that when your in a turn or quick stop the sidewall will hold that amount of weight.
The problem in particular with gooseneck trailers on lifted trucks is that the force pushing on your truck during and emergency situation is all at that hitch point and on a lifted truck that point is that much higher on the center of gravity. That makes them that much more unstable. With cattle trailers running down back roads it's a calculated risk, but with this trailer cruising down the highway particularly, in the hills it's a missile. If it ever gets sideways to your truck it gonna want to roll the truck sideways. I pull a 34' gooseneck, no lift on the truck and change back and forth between 265 and 33' tires and it is a whole different feel with how that trailer pushes the truck over in the turns.

 

Well, you should have 25-30% of the trailer weight on the ball, so I'd say around 5000 lbs minimum.

but if you have one of the other trucks and a jeep on there, you will be a lot more than 19,000 lbs total trailer weight, and probably in cdl territory. you're already close with just the jeeps.

And as 99cummins said, if you ever start to get sideways, the weight of the trailer will roll the tires right off the rim and then most likely roll the truck. I've rolled a tire off the rim WITHOUT a trailer hooked up on a dirt road where the traction is much less trying to avoid an idiot who pulled out in front of me.

 

I thought most goosenecks, new ones anyway are about 8-10inches higher then the bed rails, typical 4x4 dodge is near 60'' high at the bed side so arnt they at or around 68-70" anyway?

 

Wow, thats interesting. How would a dually fare towing about the same length gooseneck on 35's instead of stock ~32's?

 

The bed-rail clearance should remain the same, regardless of truck height.

The trailer neck rests on the hitch in the truck bed and goes up when the truck goes up.