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10-11-2005, 05:25 PM
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GN Horse Trailer questions
Looking at a gooseneck living quarter horse trailer. It's a Bison 3 horse with a 10 ft. shortwall and slideout. Supposed to weigh empty at ~9200 lbs, and has a 24 ft. floor length. I'll be putting about 3000lbs in it, so it'll gross about 12,200 lbs.
The trailer weight is within Dodge's ratings for my '01 2500...
Do you think this is too much trailer for my truck?
The trailer weight is within Dodge's ratings for my '01 2500...
Do you think this is too much trailer for my truck?
10-11-2005, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by roadranger
Looking at a gooseneck living quarter horse trailer. It's a Bison 3 horse with a 10 ft. shortwall and slideout. Supposed to weigh empty at ~9200 lbs, and has a 24 ft. floor length. I'll be putting about 3000lbs in it, so it'll gross about 12,200 lbs.
The trailer weight is within Dodge's ratings for my '01 2500...
Do you think this is too much trailer for my truck?
The trailer weight is within Dodge's ratings for my '01 2500...
Do you think this is too much trailer for my truck?
10-11-2005, 09:32 PM
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Why is that?
Dodge says this truck is good to haul a 13,200 lb trailer, and I've got 19.5 in. rubber on it.
I'm trying to get out from hauling my 4100 lb truck camper
Dodge says this truck is good to haul a 13,200 lb trailer, and I've got 19.5 in. rubber on it.
I'm trying to get out from hauling my 4100 lb truck camper
10-11-2005, 09:40 PM
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If you normally carry a 4100lb truck camper, this trailer will feel much nicer behind your truck. Definitely not as much wait hanging on the truck.
I'd say your good to go. I put more weight than that behind my truck at times and it feels fine. The dually would just feel more stable running down the road when you've got a crosswind or when you're meeting big rigs pushing a lot of air. But since this is a horse-trailer instead of a big 5th wheel with a high front, you'll have less effects from wind.
Just my $0.02...
I'd say your good to go. I put more weight than that behind my truck at times and it feels fine. The dually would just feel more stable running down the road when you've got a crosswind or when you're meeting big rigs pushing a lot of air. But since this is a horse-trailer instead of a big 5th wheel with a high front, you'll have less effects from wind.
Just my $0.02...
10-11-2005, 10:29 PM
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the truck will pull it, but personally, I wouldn't pull live weight (animals or a tank that isn't at least 85% full) like that without a dually because of the extra stability the dually gives in crosswinds.
You get a couple of antsy horses and a cross wind, and you may be in for a fun ride.
You get a couple of antsy horses and a cross wind, and you may be in for a fun ride.
10-12-2005, 12:25 AM
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You have 19.5's, you should be fine. Which tires do you have? Really you'd be fine even with LR E 16's @ 3415 # per tire. Just keep your tire pressure in check.
10-12-2005, 11:37 AM
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For 19.5's I'm running Dunlop SP 431's. They've got a pretty stiff sidewall and took the sway motion right out of hauling that truck camper.
I've seen these 2500's hauling some pretty big 5er RV's, so I figure a small 9 ft. tall, 24 ft. floor, 12,000 lb. gooseneck would work out OK with my truck.
Oh yeah, this trailer would be used as a 'toyhauler' for my static load of 'Iron Horse' railroad equipment, no live loads. WAY better build quality than your average stick and staple built RV type toy hauler. AND the load goes right OVER the trailer axles, NOT behind them.
I've seen these 2500's hauling some pretty big 5er RV's, so I figure a small 9 ft. tall, 24 ft. floor, 12,000 lb. gooseneck would work out OK with my truck.
Oh yeah, this trailer would be used as a 'toyhauler' for my static load of 'Iron Horse' railroad equipment, no live loads. WAY better build quality than your average stick and staple built RV type toy hauler. AND the load goes right OVER the trailer axles, NOT behind them.
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10-12-2005, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by roadranger
Looking at a gooseneck living quarter horse trailer. It's a Bison 3 horse with a 10 ft. shortwall and slideout. Supposed to weigh empty at ~9200 lbs, and has a 24 ft. floor length. I'll be putting about 3000lbs in it, so it'll gross about 12,200 lbs.
The trailer weight is within Dodge's ratings for my '01 2500...
Do you think this is too much trailer for my truck?
The trailer weight is within Dodge's ratings for my '01 2500...
Do you think this is too much trailer for my truck?
ive towed 25K or so with my 3/4 ton before with no issues. My sixteen foot tag weighs in at 1500 lbs empty, and ive loaded it with an 8K tractor, with no issues at 9500 lbs, then i added two tons of deercorn well spread at 13'500 lbs, other than two blowouts on a bad road and wimpy axles and springs, no issues... Point was id tow it anyways, and at 24 feet long the weight will distribute nicely
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10-13-2005, 02:15 PM
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The 19.5 Dunlops are rated at 4940 lbs @ 120psi , but the Rickson 19.5 steel wheels are 4500 lbs.
My pickup camper weighs in at 4130 lbs
and is WAY over the 16 in. wheels/tires. These campers run a bit heavy...
At least with a gooseneck I can cut the weight in the bed by half - still over, but not WAY over
My pickup camper weighs in at 4130 lbs
and is WAY over the 16 in. wheels/tires. These campers run a bit heavy...At least with a gooseneck I can cut the weight in the bed by half - still over, but not WAY over
10-14-2005, 11:55 AM
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Yeah I had heard that about the Bison trailers, bgoodwin.
I checked into it, on the horsetrailerworld forum, and it was back when Bison used 4 ft. Fiberglass roof panels that would leak at the seams after a couple of years.
Since the 2004 model year, Bison changed over to a seamless all aluminum roof, and has had no more roof leak problems.
Thanks for the head's up, though!
I checked into it, on the horsetrailerworld forum, and it was back when Bison used 4 ft. Fiberglass roof panels that would leak at the seams after a couple of years.
Since the 2004 model year, Bison changed over to a seamless all aluminum roof, and has had no more roof leak problems.
Thanks for the head's up, though!
10-22-2005, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by roadranger
Yeah I had heard that about the Bison trailers, bgoodwin.
I checked into it, on the horsetrailerworld forum, and it was back when Bison used 4 ft. Fiberglass roof panels that would leak at the seams after a couple of years.
Since the 2004 model year, Bison changed over to a seamless all aluminum roof, and has had no more roof leak problems.
Thanks for the head's up, though!
I checked into it, on the horsetrailerworld forum, and it was back when Bison used 4 ft. Fiberglass roof panels that would leak at the seams after a couple of years.
Since the 2004 model year, Bison changed over to a seamless all aluminum roof, and has had no more roof leak problems.
Thanks for the head's up, though!
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A couple of addtional points to consider: a dually will have 33% more rubber on the road which will help when braking; also, when traveling at interstate speeds I feel much more comfortable knowing that if one of my rear tires blows I've got another one on the ground. I'm not sure how much experience you have hauling horses but when they get to moving around back there a dually will provide much greater stability as well. I pull a 29 ft Sundowner living quarters with 4 horses loaded.............I know a SRW will "pull" it but there are several other things to consider with live weight. Just MHO........