csramsey640

NO. If the entire unit, truck trailer and load are over 26,001 lbs, and the trailer is over 10,000 lbs, you need a CDL.

RickG nailed it right on the head.

Ripper406

So basically anyone with a gooseneck trailer with 2 7klb axles needs a cdl or class A just to be legal? Man some laws are really screwey.

DodgeCowboy

put it this way when i hook up to the horse trailer and the horse puts its front foot in iam "overloaded" now get all four in there and um wonder how long it will take me tell iam either forced or get around to gettng truck plates on my truck.

RickG

Two 7,000 lb. axles only gives a GVWR of 14,000 so most duallies weigh under 10,000 lbs so you don't need a CDL . You only need a class A if the towing vehicle has a GCVWR of over 26,000 and the trailer is over 10 ,000 .

Ripper406

Its GVWR Rating meaning if its rated for more than 10,000lbs then class C isnt going to cut it. If copper pulls you over and you have 2 7,000lb axles then ticket or drop trailer, kinda like what Peter went through a little while ago. Now can one register the axles at a lower rating? Or just register the trailer less than 10,000lbs so I wont get ticketed without having commercial license/plates.

RickG

Class C isn't going to cut it with a GVW over 10,000 lbs.? You're wrong . There are thousands of RV haulers out there pulling trailers with GVW's of 14,000 or more with Class C licenses .I'd advise anyone wanting accurate info to pick up the FMC safety regulation pocketbook . All truckstops have it and most carries give a copy to every new driver .

Luke S

Or, you guy's could just quit worrying about all this stuff and drive. I have pulled thousands of miles both for business and personal and have gross as much as 30k+ sometimes and have never been so much as sneezed at by the dot or higway patrol. As a wise man once told me, "keep going straight forward until sombody tells you to stop". I have been doing that for a lot of years and never had a problem. And if you want to see some things I haul take a look at the first pic in my gallery. That is one of my lighter loads.

bluesurf

It's really not that confusing once you read it for yourselves, rick g just wrote everything the book said. Thanks I can't type that fast. I feel better anyway. Basicly if you're over 26 in any way shape or form you need cdl. unless you are towing under 10k.

csramsey640

No it isnt. The 1st level is 26,000 lbs. If you under that total GVW truck, trailer and load it doesnt matter how much is on the trailer

Step 2....once over 26k, if the trailer weighs more than 10k...GVW, not what its rated at you need a class A. if trailer is under 10k, but your total weight is still over 26k, class B cdl.

You need the DOT physical card to haul anything commercial, whether you own the truck or not. My first one came while delivering office products in a 25,990 lb truck

Clayten

[QUOTE=scottsjeeprolet]What book are you refering to? Where do you get it?
The DOT physical is easy just wear sweat pants for THE test they're easy to pull down, just make sure when the Doc is back there he doesn't have both hands on your shoulders and still givin you the test [/QUOTE

Ya like ya leave the doc's office on your tip toes.

Cowboy_Customs

The DOT Physical card ONLY comes into play IF you leave your lisencing state with a CMV (Commercial Motor Vehicle)
And as stated before ANYTHING UNDER 26000 Gross Combined Weight is NON-CDL.
So basicaly, if you can tow it with your pickup, just dont exceed the TRUCK manufacturers GCWR, NOT GVWR (HUGE misconseption there)

Get your self a copy of the FMCSR, its a towers and truckers bible!
I have a class A so I need to know this stuff.

Patrick Campbell

The DOT doesn't know the manufacturer's GCWR. They add the GVWR of the truck to the GVWR of the trailer.

dodgeguy71

I worked in a truck shop, I could test drive the big box trucks cause they were under 26k with my class C, normal license. To test the class 8 trucks, bareback/bobtail I had to have at least a class B. I tested for my class B and the lady at the test center said I could get my class A with a 56 provision. Which meant I could drive a class 8 truck or a dump truck with a pintle hook as long as the trailer was not more than 10K. I think it was 10K, been 5 years since I did my test. But, under 26K you did not need any form of cdl. I still can't drive a class 8 with a 5th wheel trailer though. That would be a full blown class A. Just my .02

Cowboy_Customs

yeah, I used to drive a class B tanker truck, and always thought that the moment I stuck a trailer behind it I needed an A, but found out that I could pull a trailer up too 10,000 GVWR when the boss bought a backhoe. That was....... 2 years ago I believe.