crossing states with a dually tandem trailer?
03-07-2010 | 08:15 PM
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From: Kerrville eastern new mexico, west texas
03-08-2010 | 05:29 AM
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Got that point, Strange thing is I've never been hassled for being over GVWR rating long as I was tagged or permited for the weight.
03-08-2010 | 05:40 AM
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You show a true 7 day look back when you start an over 150 mile trip or just show 7 days off? If you run into one of the super cops he might wanna see proof of any "local" work. Haven't had that happen to me, but the one other guy we got that moves equip for us. Got inspected @ the scale, DOT raised sand because their was 8 days missing in his log book, when driver said he was running the equip during those days, DOT said don't matter you could still be outta hrs due to that time being on duty not driving. Parked him for 10, & that got him kicked outta the road tractor for good, for going across the scale & not dodging.
i run a log anytime i run over 150 miles from the house. neveer have been asked about the inspection wether i was in the hotshot or big truck. if your other trucks are crossing state lines and fall under the commercial regs then you better be running a log cuz if they ask and you dont have it they can shut ya down for 10 hrs
03-08-2010 | 07:17 AM
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If thats what you mean you should get hassled.
03-08-2010 | 08:03 AM
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on my log i just put off duty and local runs. never been questioned about it yet. hauled pbr bulls across the west for about a year till me and the owner got sideways.
03-09-2010 | 04:25 AM
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Don't get trip permitted in the little trucks, our permit loads are behind the tractor trailer & are just a little over 30k like 140k. Our big hoe weighs just over 80k alone, overwidth as well. The "hassle" with permit loads is DOT tells you the route to go. I personally haven't looked at the VIN plates on any of our trucks, besides my Dodge but they are tagged as follows, the f350 is 20k, the 5500 is 40k, KW T300 is 50k & of course the two tractor trailers are 80k my dodge is 20k as well.
03-09-2010 | 01:05 PM
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In Michigan if it's private, he doesn't need a CDL or med card. You also can weigh over 26,0001. The truck is registered as a pickup as long as it weighs under 8000 lbs, so no weight limits via the plate.
03-09-2010 | 01:08 PM
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Been there. Spent an hour there last summer explaining what I was doing. I was legal, given my Michigan residence. Standard license. Hauling my own 4 vehicles on my 4 car trailer(had all titles). Truck and tailer were registered and insured. Truck and trailer loaded scaled in just under 28K.
03-09-2010 | 06:00 PM
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I was told by every port authority from MI to SD, that given I was private, I had to be legal on axles.
I would expect, if it's your wife (ie insured to drive the truck and legal owner) that you'd be OK. But if it's a friend or buddy, you might be in trouble.
I would expect, if it's your wife (ie insured to drive the truck and legal owner) that you'd be OK. But if it's a friend or buddy, you might be in trouble.
03-11-2010 | 10:17 AM
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no mention of the 150 mile rule on the TXDPS website. i have never heard that before so wanted to make sure. i have (granted small) operations in a few locations, each of which are more than 150 miles from each other (or there abouts).
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/cve/Farm.htm
i've had every trailer i've owned registered as farm trailers, as that has always been their primary use. i've never been hassled before (knocks on wood) but the OP getting stopped does make me a little nervous. especially being it was a farm truck, on a farm trailer, pulled by a farm truck. did he say why he pulled you over?
Farm Trailer
An owner is not required to register a farm trailer or farm semitrailer that has a gross weight of 4,000 pounds or less. A vehicle owner my obtain a "FARM TRAILER" license plate for a farm trailer or farm semitrailer with a gross of more than 4,000 pounds but not more than 34,000 pounds. The fee for a "FARM TRAILER" license plate is $5.00 per year. A farm trailer or farm semitrailer with a "FARM TRAILER" license plate is exempt from the state inspection certificate requirements. "FARM TRAILER" license plates may only be used on farm trailers and farm semitrailers used exclusively to transport:
* seasonally harvested agricultural products or livestock from the place of production to the place of processing, market, storage: or
* farm supplies from the place of loading to the farm.
This section also applies to:
* a farm trailer or farm semitrailer owned by a cotton gin and used exclusively to transport agricultural products without charge from the place of production to the place of processing, market, or storage.
* a trailer used exclusively to transport fertilizer without charge form a place of supply or storage to a farm.
* a trailer used exclusively to transport cottonseed without charge from a place of supply or storage to a farm or place of processing.
This section does not apply to a farm trailer or farm semitrailer that:
* is used for hire; or
* has metal tires operating in contact with the highway: or
* is not equipped with an adequate hitch pinned or locked so that it will remain securely engaged to the towing vehicle while in motion; or
* is not operated and equipped in compliance with all other law.
An owner is not required to register a farm trailer or farm semitrailer that has a gross weight of 4,000 pounds or less. A vehicle owner my obtain a "FARM TRAILER" license plate for a farm trailer or farm semitrailer with a gross of more than 4,000 pounds but not more than 34,000 pounds. The fee for a "FARM TRAILER" license plate is $5.00 per year. A farm trailer or farm semitrailer with a "FARM TRAILER" license plate is exempt from the state inspection certificate requirements. "FARM TRAILER" license plates may only be used on farm trailers and farm semitrailers used exclusively to transport:
* seasonally harvested agricultural products or livestock from the place of production to the place of processing, market, storage: or
* farm supplies from the place of loading to the farm.
This section also applies to:
* a farm trailer or farm semitrailer owned by a cotton gin and used exclusively to transport agricultural products without charge from the place of production to the place of processing, market, or storage.
* a trailer used exclusively to transport fertilizer without charge form a place of supply or storage to a farm.
* a trailer used exclusively to transport cottonseed without charge from a place of supply or storage to a farm or place of processing.
This section does not apply to a farm trailer or farm semitrailer that:
* is used for hire; or
* has metal tires operating in contact with the highway: or
* is not equipped with an adequate hitch pinned or locked so that it will remain securely engaged to the towing vehicle while in motion; or
* is not operated and equipped in compliance with all other law.
i've had every trailer i've owned registered as farm trailers, as that has always been their primary use. i've never been hassled before (knocks on wood) but the OP getting stopped does make me a little nervous. especially being it was a farm truck, on a farm trailer, pulled by a farm truck. did he say why he pulled you over?
03-11-2010 | 10:26 AM
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i also found this;
from this http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/cve/cmv...Farm_Guide.doc
Classes of Texas Driver License: Non-Commercial Driver License (Non-CDL) (TRC 521.081, 082, 083)
Class A – Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, provided the GVWR of the vehicle or vehicles being towed exceeds 10,000 pounds.
Class B – Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more towing a vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or less.
Exception in Texas only: (TRC (Transportation Code) 521.082)
(a) towing a vehicle, other than a farm trailer, with a gross weight rating that is not more than 10,000 pounds; or
(b) a farm trailer with a gross vehicle weight rating that is not more than 20,000 pounds.
Class C – Any single vehicle or combination of vehicles that does not conform to the description under Class A or B of this section.
A vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 26,001 pounds towing a farm trailer with a gross weight rating that is not more than 20,000 pounds.
Class A – Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, provided the GVWR of the vehicle or vehicles being towed exceeds 10,000 pounds.
Class B – Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more towing a vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or less.
Exception in Texas only: (TRC (Transportation Code) 521.082)
(a) towing a vehicle, other than a farm trailer, with a gross weight rating that is not more than 10,000 pounds; or
(b) a farm trailer with a gross vehicle weight rating that is not more than 20,000 pounds.
Class C – Any single vehicle or combination of vehicles that does not conform to the description under Class A or B of this section.
A vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 26,001 pounds towing a farm trailer with a gross weight rating that is not more than 20,000 pounds.