Am I safe to pull and stop my 5th wheel?
#1
Am I safe to pull and stop my 5th wheel?
Will I bought a 2006 Keystone Raptor 3612DS with the following specs:
Dry Weight: 11335 Carrying weight: 4165 total 15500. Hitch weight:2870
My truck weights in at 7390 with full tank of fuel. GCVWR is 20k. My total is 22890 which means I am over weight by 2890. I do have firestone airbags and bought a Pac brake. My question is even with the airbags and Pac brake am I safe to pull and stop this 5th wheel? Or do I need to be looking at a3500?
Thanks is advance.
Dry Weight: 11335 Carrying weight: 4165 total 15500. Hitch weight:2870
My truck weights in at 7390 with full tank of fuel. GCVWR is 20k. My total is 22890 which means I am over weight by 2890. I do have firestone airbags and bought a Pac brake. My question is even with the airbags and Pac brake am I safe to pull and stop this 5th wheel? Or do I need to be looking at a3500?
Thanks is advance.
#3
I would look at the rear axle weight with the 5'er hooked up.
Stop at a CAT scale for the true story. You might find that you are over your tire ratings. I went through 2 sets of tires by overloading them. Scary feeling going down a curvy, twisty mountain, wondering what would happen should a tire fail.
Enjoy your camper, Drive safely.
Stop at a CAT scale for the true story. You might find that you are over your tire ratings. I went through 2 sets of tires by overloading them. Scary feeling going down a curvy, twisty mountain, wondering what would happen should a tire fail.
Enjoy your camper, Drive safely.
#4
Make sure you have some VERY good rubber under the truck as stated, minimum E rated and run them at max psi when towing.
Will the truck tow the load? Yes. Will you legally be overloaded? Yes. If you get in to an accident being overloaded and the insurance people find out, you WILL be in allot of trouble. Even the DOT guys MIGHT hassle you, but probably not.
Will the truck tow the load? Yes. Will you legally be overloaded? Yes. If you get in to an accident being overloaded and the insurance people find out, you WILL be in allot of trouble. Even the DOT guys MIGHT hassle you, but probably not.
#6
Here are your numbers. truck 7390lbs, hitch probably empty 2870lbs. NOW here's the kicker your trucks GVWR 9000lbs. Trucks usable load 1610lbs that means you are 1260lbs over the legal limit without even loading your trailer. I know they don't enforce the GVWR.... much! The diesel 2500 is what it is, rated to tow more than a 3500 but can't carry as much as a gas truck.
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#8
I would look at the rear axle weight with the 5'er hooked up.
Stop at a CAT scale for the true story. You might find that you are over your tire ratings. I went through 2 sets of tires by overloading them. Scary feeling going down a curvy, twisty mountain, wondering what would happen should a tire fail.
Enjoy your camper, Drive safely.
Stop at a CAT scale for the true story. You might find that you are over your tire ratings. I went through 2 sets of tires by overloading them. Scary feeling going down a curvy, twisty mountain, wondering what would happen should a tire fail.
Enjoy your camper, Drive safely.
Make sure you have some VERY good rubber under the truck as stated, minimum E rated and run them at max psi when towing.
Will the truck tow the load? Yes. Will you legally be overloaded? Yes. If you get in to an accident being overloaded and the insurance people find out, you WILL be in allot of trouble. Even the DOT guys MIGHT hassle you, but probably not.
Will the truck tow the load? Yes. Will you legally be overloaded? Yes. If you get in to an accident being overloaded and the insurance people find out, you WILL be in allot of trouble. Even the DOT guys MIGHT hassle you, but probably not.
Here are your numbers. truck 7390lbs, hitch probably empty 2870lbs. NOW here's the kicker your trucks GVWR 9000lbs. Trucks usable load 1610lbs that means you are 1260lbs over the legal limit without even loading your trailer. I know they don't enforce the GVWR.... much! The diesel 2500 is what it is, rated to tow more than a 3500 but can't carry as much as a gas truck.
Thanks for all the replies.
#10
I just took a look at the floor plan for your trailer and its a toy hauler. You need to weigh the trailer loaded with toys as this takes a ton of weight of the hitch. Because of the GVWR of the trailer I suspect the hitch weight will still be up there. 15500lbs and a pin of 2867lbs is 18.5% which is in the middle of 17-20%.
A pin weight of 2890lbs with the trailer dry at 11335lbs is 25.5%.
A pin weight of 2890lbs with the trailer dry at 11335lbs is 25.5%.
#11
I just took a look at the floor plan for your trailer and its a toy hauler. You need to weigh the trailer loaded with toys as this takes a ton of weight of the hitch. Because of the GVWR of the trailer I suspect the hitch weight will still be up there. 15500lbs and a pin of 2867lbs is 18.5% which is in the middle of 17-20%.
A pin weight of 2890lbs with the trailer dry at 11335lbs is 25.5%.
A pin weight of 2890lbs with the trailer dry at 11335lbs is 25.5%.
Thanks for everyone's input.
#13
Ignore tire pressures that may be listed on the truck's door. Go by the max pressure shown on the sidewall of the tire.
Another option is a set of Rickson 19.5" wheels. Then you can go with F or G load rated tires. That would give you a bit more safety margin, and probably much better tire life.
#14
[QUOTE=Midnite;2933707]I'm not so sure about that. I have never seen an E tire that didn't have a max pressure of 80 psi.
Ignore tire pressures that may be listed on the truck's door. Go by the max pressure shown on the sidewall of the tire.QUOTE]
this is what i do. 80 psi. and no less. i have to argue with the tire shop every time i have my tires rotated. they want to go buy that dame sticker. i really need to take that off.
Ignore tire pressures that may be listed on the truck's door. Go by the max pressure shown on the sidewall of the tire.QUOTE]
this is what i do. 80 psi. and no less. i have to argue with the tire shop every time i have my tires rotated. they want to go buy that dame sticker. i really need to take that off.