CoastalDav

This was a concept last year. Looks like they may bring it. Its about time. Something with more than a 26,000 CGWR.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/...ntcmp=features

Dave

SOhappy

Yeah, Allpar says it's got the green light. that'll be so sweet..1,700 miles on a fill-up? I'd have to stop long before that to de-fuel, if you know what I mean.

It will be interesting to see if the end result some kind of "non-chassis cab" (3500) 5500 with the H.O. (800 ft. lb.) engine and 68RFE, or if it has the Asin and de-tuned 6.7 like the chassis cabs do.

CoastalDav

Don't know about this truck, but I heard at the dodge dealer an 8 speed was in the works for the 3500 cummins. ??? I would think this truck should have the Asin with its load capacity. Rear Gearing is a big question with an 8 speed or even a Asin. The 4500's and 5500's in tow haul stay in 5th gear.

I hope they smooth out the bed sides and remove what ever that is.

Dave

FiverBob

Be interested to know how they are figuring 1700 miles needing that much fuel. I carry 88 gallons and get a good 20 empty. That one is carrying twice as much fuel. That puts me at a comfortable 1500 range with some to spare. Good looking truck - - agree with you on the rear fenders. It should sell.

Bob

Colo_River_Ram

They are forgetting the people who make a living with these things.. AKA no DOT compliant sleeper! Did I mention how I hate engineers?

NE frmhnd

The break in the fender is the fuel tank.
This thing's heavy.

All the trucks have an 8 speed in the works, and I heard of a car (Chrysler, I think, 200 maybe) getting a 9 speed auto.

CoastalDav

I don't think this vehicle is pointed at the Commercial market. This will be the only Dodge vehicle made with more than a 26,000 lbs GCWR. I think its pointed at the RV Haulers, prespective Ford and Chevy buyers, and other non commercial persons that don't want to buy a Freightliner or other huge truck.

Currently, the Dodge 3500 can tow more than a 4500 or 5500. Who would buy a 4500 or 5500 to tow a 18,000 lb RV. No One that would be concerned about
insurance and weight ratings.

Remember the on line conference that was held with the Dodge Engineers a couple years ago that this was brought up.

As far a heavy, my 2006 with 105 gallons of fuel, me and the wife with all the towing gear, Generator, in the truck weighs in at 9040lbs. So I don't think its to heavy.

Will have to see one and see what the drive train is Etc and compare

Dave

Colo_River_Ram

I know a lot of hot shotters that would dis-agree on that.. Dodge shot their self in the foot with the 26K rating it is fine for the box / roll back market but when you tow a Goose your going to be light on the payload. That is where this would payout if it was properly rigged.

CoastalDav

Yea, your probably right. Hot shotters might want this. Lets hope the brakes
are big enough to handle the 37K GCWR.

Lets also hope they put a Transmission in it that does not have to be managed by the computer, keeping the torque down to want is needed vs whats available.

The Chevy Duramax/Allision Combo is the best out there right now for the RV people pulling 18,500 lb, or better, fifth wheels. The Ford 6.7 is also good. Dodge needs a 4.10 were chevy and ford use a 3.73 gear in their high output engines. I believe the Ford manages its tranny which is the reason it can't catch the Chevy at the Eisenhower Tunnel. 400 hp helps as well.

Dave

Colo_River_Ram

Dave,

The brakes on the 45/5500 are the largest in the class (the original design was air-brakes until they found out you needed a CDL to drive it), that along with it's Dana 110 rear end makes it far superior to the 3500 Dodge. I read another story on this and it stated they would be a retro-fit kit to bring up the GCVWR of the older vehicles on paper. I have the 4.88 gears trust me it is a beast already..

Crete

You don't need a CDL for air brakes. Not in the states anyway

RamGazer

I love driving vehicles that have air brakes! I just wish that dodge offered our kind of trucks (w/ an option) of having air brakes. More pics of the L-o-n-g Hauler: https://www.google.com/search?q=ram+...w=1600&bih=749

I just got through reading an article stating that this truck will have a DEF tank.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2012/04...ler-drive.html

SOhappy

They're all going to have DEF starting next year when the 2014 models hit the showrooms.

PoorMansCat

DEF is not a bad thing... its really a non-issue.

Colo_River_Ram

My suggestion to the Dodge online chat session was to put in a three speed transfer case with the top gear being an OD

Agreed all states are different just as some states will allow you to register the truck for a higher gcvw than the mfr has it listed as. I looked at a Dodge 3500 with the heavy tow package today. A 4.10 dually with e-rated tries, AL diff cooler and hd tranny cooler is rated over 30K..

Not for Texans,

However when it gets -40 and the DEF fluid freezes then it's a problem.

DEF is on the C&C's already the tank is below the floor board on the driver side. Can you say ground clearance "NOT"