Tim,
Go with the Fuel Preporator or the FASS and Don't look back!!!!!
You will run all new lines from the tenk to the Fuel Preporator or FASS and from it to the VP44.
Plus you WILL get all the other benefits of the system such as air removal, less smoke, more power, less cold morning noxious odor, did I mention more POWER?, and lift pump issues are over as these things run 100's of thousands of miles on class 8 tractors.

James

 

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How can you tell if a lift pump is going to fail before it actually does?What does the FP guage do? That is the purpose of the guage isn't it?
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You can tell by installing a fuel pressure gauge you monitor the pressure of the LP if it gets low time to change the filter if its still bad change the pump save the vp44 ;D

 

Thanks guys. This seems like the most important mod of all. Preperator after Christmas with dual pod and FP guage. Thanks for the info.

 

Hey BLUTIC, I was reading your profile and saw you had injectors and a box. Do you have a stock clutch? If so hows it holding all that power? Spending close to a grand for a new clutch is the main reason I dont have injectors yet.

 

IMO the FASS system is way over priced and not required, if you can keep the VP-44 supplied with a good 8 to 10psi under all conditions you don't need all the extra filters, pumps, and lines one of these systems use. > As a said in my previous post a good set of high flow banjos and "NEW" lift/transfer pump will keep the VP-44 happy way past 400 ponys. I even know of a few running close to 500hp with just this set up. ;D Buy some banjos or if you are real perinoid buy the Wildcat system and save the extra cash for real performance parts. 8) I run a PM 3 Comp box (probeble the most aggresive box out there) and have no FP issues running on level 9 much less daily driving or hauling.

This is just my own opinion though.

DB

 

Is this what you guys are talking about or am I way off?

http://www.protintnw.com/sa_dodge-fuel.htm

Scroll down to the PE 4200 thingy!

If my stock Lift pump goes should I just spend the extra bucks and get this?

 

The PE4200 is what we're using on the 400 HP+ trucks these days. While the FASS system looks like a nice rig, and indeed we've got a few customers running it with great success, the PE4200 has a few advantages:

1) It can be mounted up front, under the hood, and out of the elements. The FASS system needs to be mounted toward the back side of the truck, either on the inside of the frame rail, which leaves the fuel filter sticking out below the frame, or on the outside of the frame rail, which still leaves it open to the elements.

2) It still uses the stock fuel filter, and the stock fuel filter is available anywhere there is a Dodge dealer. The Fleetguard spin on type filter used in the FASS system, while widely available, is still not available everywhere.

 

Does it hurt to run this PE4200 without having 400+ hp? If my lift pump goes and I'm almost all stock except and ez should I just buy another lift pump or get this? Thanks man

 

Cummins Dude not at all ;D

 

I just spoke to Rod at Wildcat Performance Diesel and he talked me out of the max flow kit. He said the high flow banjos are all I need for my setup. I'm not sure what to think about a company that turns down an opportunity to make more money for the sake of honesty ??? What's the world coming to I'm impressed! Got my business from now on ;D ;D ;D

 

Anyone have any pix of this kit installed on their trucks? TIA Phil

 

Oh cool! you must have dyno numbers showing a significant increase in POWER!!! And with all that removed air, where does it go? Nevermind, doesn't matter.

The FASS and fuel Preporator seem to be well built. But like anything else, until it has several million miles under the stesses of the CTD, I do not think that results from use in Class 8 or OTR trucks can apply.

They seem to be doing okay right now, how will they fare two years down the road? 5? 10? Not trying to discredit anything that has been said, but I would like to see more real world testing before I shelled out the bucks for that system.

I, like many others feel that increased flow could be of use on any truck with just a single mod. Obviously, matching fuel needs to the individual performance specs are important.

Dave

 

You have a PM.

brandon.

 

My story almost exactly. Right at 450 (dyno soon) and I could get zero FP at 415. Now with Wildcat kit (3/8 inch all the way, no banjos) I can only pull it down to 6#. That is with 12psi at idle.

No photos just yet. I'll make some next week when it warms up a bit. It's not the easiest install, but I did keep 400 dollars in my pocket.

 

Hey sonny, your mail box is full. Dump some of your PM's ok?