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Old 08-05-2009 | 11:42 PM
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wanting to run a smarty...

my 02 is pretty stock and tame,k i want to wake it up in the rear future , so i was thinking about buying a smarty. But my trans is completely stock, so my question is what do i have to do to my trans to be able to run the smarty? is it really worth the money or shpuld i look in the DTR classifieds for a used EZ/XZT? which one will blow the most smoke timing box or fueling box?
Old 08-06-2009 | 12:28 AM
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ive told you time and time again your gonna need a vb and a tc. And unless youve got supporting mods the smarty is only good to 65 hp i beleive. The ez is the same hp gain and hald as cheap. And it aint all about blowing smoke.....grow up matthew. haha
Old 08-06-2009 | 09:29 AM
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my truck has an ez and a smoke switch and it will blow some real nice smoke
Old 08-06-2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by coon-dog7070
... which one will blow the most smoke timing box or fueling box?
???? Both EZ and Smarty provide timing and fueling. If your tranny is in good shape, it will hold up from either box.
Smarty is more expensive, but offers more options. I had an EZ before the Smarty's came out and the Smarty is my choice.

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Old 08-06-2009 | 11:30 AM
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I think the smarty is a great product for a stock truck as well as a bombed truck. this is a item you can grow with. this enhances the throttle so much on the bottom end. my thoughts are your stock tranny with any enhancement will slowely start to slip and go south. just the smarty could get you there quicker. just think of it as . well HONEY I need a tranny upgrade because of the smarty. and I need a smarty so I can upgrade my tranny. the smarty has some nice side features that you can appreciate as well. the EZ is okay I think you will be able to get better MPG with the smarty dialed in right. good luck
Old 08-06-2009 | 01:48 PM
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my truck has an ez and a smoke switch and it will blow some real nice smoke
HOW DO YOU GET A SMOKE SWITCH? WHAT DOES IT REALLY DO?
Old 08-06-2009 | 09:10 PM
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get a box like the edge juice or comp that taps into the VP44.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVRPipmo8sU
Its kinda weird... mine works great if your in idle and romp on it or cruising and let off the gas, let the rpms drop to idle and then mash it but if your cruising in boost it sucks. Its still a fun almost free mod.
Old 08-07-2009 | 12:36 PM
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Is There A Kit That You Can Buy For It Or Is A Custom Mod...different For Every Truck?
Old 08-07-2009 | 12:52 PM
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will the same smarty box for a 2nd gen work for an 03. I know they vin locked when a program is loaded, but have been wanting a smarty for 03 just wondering if the same thing know the differnece and loads a different program?
Old 08-07-2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselfreak21
will the same smarty box for a 2nd gen work for an 03. I know they vin locked when a program is loaded, but have been wanting a smarty for 03 just wondering if the same thing know the differnece and loads a different program?
No the Smarty for a second gen is a completely different animal from the 3rd gen product.
Old 08-07-2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by coon-dog7070
HOW DO YOU GET A SMOKE SWITCH?
Think your being teased. No such animal that I know of..... and why would anyone want one?

Only way I know is to have a small turbo and buy big injectors and an expensive fueling box. ALso, not to smart!

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Old 08-07-2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RowJ
Think your being teased. No such animal that I know of..... and why would anyone want one?

Only way I know is to have a small turbo and buy big injectors and an expensive fueling box. ALso, not to smart!

RJ
They exist, I've got one. Use to run around using it like a childish idiot but have grown to realize the true side affect of it.. Nothing but ammo against us.
Old 08-07-2009 | 06:05 PM
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Thanks Larry. Darn capitalism. Man I love capialism but I'm 2 cheap to buy another box for the my 03.
Old 08-08-2009 | 12:34 AM
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If I was you and had an '02 I would look around some of these sights and see who has done what with their similar vp-44 trucks and ask how their truck runs in all different applications and try to emulate the one you like the best for your situation and to the best of your financial capabilities. Shoot for a goal and work towards it, the whole smoke thing ( no offense) is really pretty stupid and childish ( except when you are blacking out a granola on a bike ). Not to mention King Oobamy is already trying to get rid of trucks like ours so why give these tree hugging libs any more ammo to use on us. JM $0.02
Old 08-13-2009 | 11:45 PM
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if i put in a new vb and tq, what level can i run the smarty on? and whats smartys "catcher?"
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