tst pm3 / tst pm3 comp
#2
Originally Posted by blackdiesel02
have i seen a tst pm3 comp? What is it rated at? is it that much of a increase on a HO engine? is it worth the extra $$??
Jake
#3
I just talked to TST yesterday to order the right Map sensor harness for my truck, they said the Comp box is rated at 180hp and 450 ftlbs, but that was on an S.O. motor, they said about 90hp or so on a H.O. motor
#6
I have the TST PM3 adjustable unit. I sent it in to get converted to the competition version (you have to sign a waiver). In my case, it did absolutely JACK except make setting 4 like setting 9 used to be and now there is no difference at all between setting 4 all the way up through 9. Now, that being said, I have an HO, and it is the original VP44 with 116k miles on it. It is probably the case that my pump simply will not put out any additional fuel regardless of what the computer is telling it and the comp version is so hot that by setting 4 my pump is maxed out. I have heard that on a hotrod VP44 truck, the comp version is worth a bunch and continues to make more power as you increase up to setting 9.
Kp
Kp
#7
Originally Posted by CTD2001
It is possible that he was talking about the no comp version when he said 90hp
That sounds about right from what I've read. HO's won't have the gain with boxes that SO's will with the stock injection pump. I've heard others say that 90 is about max.. even if you're at max power for your vp on not.
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#8
Originally Posted by 600 Megawatts
I have the TST PM3 adjustable unit. I sent it in to get converted to the competition version (you have to sign a waiver). In my case, it did absolutely JACK except make setting 4 like setting 9 used to be and now there is no difference at all between setting 4 all the way up through 9. Now, that being said, I have an HO, and it is the original VP44 with 116k miles on it. It is probably the case that my pump simply will not put out any additional fuel regardless of what the computer is telling it and the comp version is so hot that by setting 4 my pump is maxed out. I have heard that on a hotrod VP44 truck, the comp version is worth a bunch and continues to make more power as you increase up to setting 9.
Kp
Kp
BTW, I'm good for about 600MW on a good day!
Jim
#9
All depends on what you want to do with the truck. If you want to run it over 3 grand then you'll need the comp as the regular PM3 doesn't fuel over 3. I'd say for about 90% of people with HO trucks the standard PM3 is just fine. You wont gain much of anything with the comp on an HO except for a few FPTQ.
#10
i no my truck is a so so i dont no how mutch diffrence you will get on the ho but there was a large difference in my truck it made my current level 2 like my old level 4 and mad level six mean i havent went higher than 6 cause stock turbo wont keep is cool but i now it was well worth the 50buck plus shipping to me
#11
Originally Posted by CTD2001
I just talked to TST yesterday to order the right Map sensor harness for my truck, they said the Comp box is rated at 180hp and 450 ftlbs, but that was on an S.O. motor, they said about 90hp or so on a H.O. motor
The TST PM3 is rated at 120 hp... a little less on an automatic.
Anyway... I get a noticable difference from the PM3 Comp on my SO from #5 (which is #9 on reg PM3) up to #9. Can definately feel it.... and it dynos 20-30 hp more on my automatic!
My reg PM3 fueled over 3000 rpm.... but that may be due to the reprogramed ECM from the Smarty??
For the $50.00 Comp upgrade price it's cheap...but not real usable...due to the shudder (cavitation) after letting off the throttle. Can't be the best thing for the VP-44.
The regular PM3 is set up for the max fuel available from the VP-44!
RJ
#12
Originally Posted by rjohnson
Both these #'s make no sense to me???
The TST PM3 is rated at 120 hp... a little less on an automatic.
Anyway... I get a noticable difference from the PM3 Comp on my SO from #5 (which is #9 on reg PM3) up to #9. Can definately feel it.... and it dynos 20-30 hp more on my automatic!
My reg PM3 fueled over 3000 rpm.... but that may be due to the reprogramed ECM from the Smarty??
For the $50.00 Comp upgrade price it's cheap...but not real usable...due to the shudder (cavitation) after letting off the throttle. Can't be the best thing for the VP-44.
The regular PM3 is set up for the max fuel available from the VP-44!
RJ
The TST PM3 is rated at 120 hp... a little less on an automatic.
Anyway... I get a noticable difference from the PM3 Comp on my SO from #5 (which is #9 on reg PM3) up to #9. Can definately feel it.... and it dynos 20-30 hp more on my automatic!
My reg PM3 fueled over 3000 rpm.... but that may be due to the reprogramed ECM from the Smarty??
For the $50.00 Comp upgrade price it's cheap...but not real usable...due to the shudder (cavitation) after letting off the throttle. Can't be the best thing for the VP-44.
The regular PM3 is set up for the max fuel available from the VP-44!
RJ
#14
Originally Posted by rjohnson
Both these #'s make no sense to me???
The TST PM3 is rated at 120 hp... a little less on an automatic.
Anyway... I get a noticable difference from the PM3 Comp on my SO from #5 (which is #9 on reg PM3) up to #9. Can definately feel it.... and it dynos 20-30 hp more on my automatic!
My reg PM3 fueled over 3000 rpm.... but that may be due to the reprogramed ECM from the Smarty??
For the $50.00 Comp upgrade price it's cheap...but not real usable...due to the shudder (cavitation) after letting off the throttle. Can't be the best thing for the VP-44.
The regular PM3 is set up for the max fuel available from the VP-44!
RJ
The TST PM3 is rated at 120 hp... a little less on an automatic.
Anyway... I get a noticable difference from the PM3 Comp on my SO from #5 (which is #9 on reg PM3) up to #9. Can definately feel it.... and it dynos 20-30 hp more on my automatic!
My reg PM3 fueled over 3000 rpm.... but that may be due to the reprogramed ECM from the Smarty??
For the $50.00 Comp upgrade price it's cheap...but not real usable...due to the shudder (cavitation) after letting off the throttle. Can't be the best thing for the VP-44.
The regular PM3 is set up for the max fuel available from the VP-44!
RJ
"The PMCE (Competition) adds 180 HP and 450 lb-ft Torque (on level 9) for the standard engine. The HO (High Output) engine (2001-2002) already has 245 HP and the PMCE (Competition) does not make as much of a difference and adds 80HP and 310 lb-ft of Torque."
#15
For the $50.00 Comp upgrade price it's cheap...but not real usable...due to the shudder (cavitation) after letting off the throttle. Can't be the best thing for the VP-44.
havent noticed mine shuddering when i let of the throttle is that a normal thing with the tst comps ran mine for 35000 miles now with nothin but grins from it with no shudders (but i dont like the way the cruise control acts with it set higher than #3)
havent noticed mine shuddering when i let of the throttle is that a normal thing with the tst comps ran mine for 35000 miles now with nothin but grins from it with no shudders (but i dont like the way the cruise control acts with it set higher than #3)