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Old 03-20-2009, 09:42 AM
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yes deffinatly no towing now..... i still got the super b single so may end up switching them back and forth....
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Hey guys, Just read this thread and got caught up, Redliner so5.9 and everyone esle, What about other brands? This has all been BD talk. Ive had my eyes on ATS Araora 3000 or a Industrial inject. Phat shaft, Silver bullet or silver 62. Your thoughts??
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Originally Posted by SO5.9
Hey man, I really am interested......does a good manifold REALLY help with the spool up of something like the Super B Special? I mean it would have to make a huge difference to make a big single enjoyable to me......I simply dont drive a cummins so it will finally make power at full throttle and 1700 rpm. Oh, and the amount of coal rolling required to get going is ridiculous with a big single. Sorry....rant rant
yes it really helps with spool up. Ive heard they do even better if you port em (i havent tryed it so i cant comment on that) but the way they come out the box is so great youll definetly notice the diffrence. It will even bring your egts down a bit since you dont have to waist all the time dumping fuel to get it to light. Im running a HTT 64/71/14 (its in a daily driver by the way) so its similar to a super b special (ik the special is a 64 but after that idk).

dodgegenit. the ats, phat shaft, silver bullet, and silver 62 are all good turbos as they have all been proven. Turbo selection comes down to what you want to do with the truck and how much money you want to spend. I picked my 64 because i wanted something that would have more then enough air to handle the fuel i had so if i decide to add more i could keep the same turbo. also if my turbo gets out of its map i could upgrade it to a 66 for cheap
Old 03-22-2009, 07:52 PM
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97, Im lookin for around 450 hp, but its a everyday driver used for towing up too 12 k lbs and plowin snow. Im not lookin for 10 sec 1/4's but want to be able to smoke the tuned ricer or stroker next to me. Quick spool but able to handle more then stock turbo. Hopefully adding DDP 110 hp sticks soon too.
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a 62would be good for you. but then it comes to exhaust housing size. usually most turbos come in 12 or 14 cm housings. A 12cm is what you have now so if you like that then keep it a 12. Im not sure what other companies make em, but htt sells a 13 ss whcih will give u a 12cm housings spool up and some of the heat reduction a 14 gives you. A 14 is a bit laggier (fuel like the 110 hp sticks you want to add and a good manifold can fix most of that), but it usually gives you less heat overall though as theres more room for air to occupy. Same concept for why the bigger the compressor wheel the more potential there is for hp. which is why we upgrade from stock turbos to bigger 62s and etc.
Personally if it was mine n i was going for the same idea id go for a 62/65/14 (are capable of flowing a lot of fuel) or a 62/71/13ss (that would be if i had stacked programmers on top of the 110s and was still towing)
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Ok, 13 sounds like it would be the best then, Cause im not stacking programmers anytime soon i dont think. I still have a while till buy time though, But thanks for the info.

Oh also, Ive looked in my manual and stuff and.. Exactly what turbo do i have? Its the stock one, type and Size?
Old 03-24-2009, 01:42 AM
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97D-tec any idea or anyone else have any good ideas that would suit my set-up,super b just gets too hot when on it. The truck is a daily driver and the most it regularly has on it is a sled deck and 2 sleds.ideas?
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Well I hooked a trailer up yesterday with a new holland skid loader and it was no laggier than the single. Had to keep rpms up to keep egts in check due to the heavy fueling and always have my boxes on but all in all think this is the right one for my app.
Canadian... Id look for a 62 for you with maybe a 65 wheel. This will help your air flow to cool and wont be too laggy for ya I think... Hope this helps.
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thanks for the info redliner
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Originally Posted by DodgenIt
Ok, 13 sounds like it would be the best then, Cause im not stacking programmers anytime soon i dont think. I still have a while till buy time though, But thanks for the info.

Oh also, Ive looked in my manual and stuff and.. Exactly what turbo do i have? Its the stock one, type and Size?
i think your stock turbos a hy-35 or an hx-35 (there basically the same) i believe its a 56/12 or 57/12

Canadian you may not need an entire turbo swap you may just need a exhaust housing change unless you have a 14 on it already(cant remember what it has as an exhaust housing)? If it just pegs the egt needle almost immediatly then maybe you really do need a turbo swap. Bd may be able to turn your super b into a super b special which means you should have a 64 w/o paying about 1800
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Thanks 97 d-tec. Me and a fellow dodge brotherin were talkin about it the other day and we seem to think its HX-35. Man with only 56 or 57/12, I need to upgrade that thing!
Do you by chance know the compressor wheel size?
Im thinking just upgrade to 62ish with a bigger wheel cause i like that fast spool the 12 cm exhaust gives me.
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If you have the original turbo in an original auto tranny 2002 you have HY which is only 9cm exhaust housing. The HX was only on the stick trucks in 2001-2002.
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Well shet. Looks like i gotta up grade the holoe thing now. Im almost embarrased at that size.
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I'm upgrading my injectors and turbo. Got DPP 75's ordered today and thinking of calling and having them upgrade to DPP 110hp injectors.

I'm also was about to order a BD Super B turbo (57/65/14) but after my research, I'm now thinking of the HTT HTB2 (62/71/13) instead.

I tow on occasion to the Drag Strip and plan on upgrading my transmission soon. I've got a Smarty and just purchased an Edge Comp.

Would the HTB2 and DPP-100's get to hot and spool late?
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I was running the Super B 57mm with 100hp Edge injectors and a comp with smarty stack. Egts were in check all the time, never got over 1300 on wot runs. If your gonna go bigger in th future a 62 would be the way to go.


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