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So, who has the thickest, gnarliest intercooler boots available?

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Old 12-18-2007 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8R
The best boots are made of silicone with SS anti-ballooning rings; high-temp (500*F) boots will provide an additional ~100*F overhead in the thermal envelope - comes in handy for twins.

The best boot clamps are SS constant-torque T-bolts; they won't rust, have plenty of thread engagement & a stout capture head for plenty of clamping force, and the spring maintains the initial installed-torque tension during the engine's thermal cycles... the fact that silicone shrinks as it's temperature rises is often overlooked or unknown.

Of course, if the boot nipples (am I allowed to say that? ) don't have a bead roll on the end, it's something of an uphill battle to avoid blow-off at higher boost pressures.
Again - de rigueur for twins!
You should be able to fab up some crazy awesome boots or something with the XLR8R magic.
Old 12-18-2007 | 01:21 PM
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these are my boots. I have some DPRs for the IC elbows though.

Old 12-18-2007 | 04:22 PM
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153624 where did you get those? They look very Beefy!!
Old 12-18-2007 | 04:54 PM
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i wouldn't buy bd boots again i've went though 2 of them and also when i blew one of them and put my stock one back on that side and it held on longer than the bd boot did
Old 12-18-2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by haloman
You should be able to fab up some crazy awesome boots or something with the XLR8R magic.
All the best stuff is out there - but not in one place... we'll have that fixed before winter's over, timed to release with our twins project.
Old 12-18-2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by allisfarmer
i wouldn't buy bd boots again i've went though 2 of them and also when i blew one of them and put my stock one back on that side and it held on longer than the bd boot did

I apologize for what you went through with the old style boots. Any time you develop a product there are always going to be revisions made to improve the product. We have changed to a cross weaved material now which is much stronger than the old style. I know it is frustrating to have a failure, but if there is anything I can do for you on a new set let me know.
Old 12-18-2007 | 06:19 PM
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Interesting solution to "many turns" on the spring clamps!
Maybe would not have to reattach 'blown' boot if you used the springs. I don't believe they are just for looks?
Not being a wise guy.... just believe they serve a purpose.
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RowJ, I appreciate your comment concerning constant tension spring clamps serving their purpose, but it just isn’t true if the spring is stacked closed. I have read on the BD site that the spring clamp should be tightened to the point where the spring is just stacked. I found the boot blew off at about 35 psi under that condition. All the pipes were clean of oil so I tried a few more turns to get them to stay on. The few more turns after the spring is stacked is just compressing the silicon rubber and it still blew off at about 50 psi. It was then I took out a torque wrench to see how tight the clamps were. They were all over the place with the tightest one being about 60 inch pounds. I then cranked them all to 100 inch pounds using the springs but realized the springs were serving no purpose at that point. The spacers I added to replace the springs just aid in the speed of removal and tightening. The constant tension (which is not really constant) is now provided by the compressed silicon hose and hot or cold is now holding well at 60 psi.

I have no problems with the blue (ford color) boots and do like the long threaded nuts providing a strip free thread. The idea of using a light spring to provide enough clamping force for the BD compound turbos is just inadequate to get the job done.

I am sure the heavy boots are better at holding under high pressure.
Old 12-18-2007 | 07:00 PM
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Looks like Piers is getting the good stuff made for all of us junkies again!


http://www.peakdieselperformance.com...ge/4863099.htm
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Old 12-19-2007 | 08:27 AM
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Would some sort of double clamp help or be any better for blowing the boots off the tubes? Assuming install difficulty was not an issue.
Old 12-19-2007 | 03:12 PM
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I would like to see clamps with 'rolled' edges. I must have had a boot expand a bit (baloon) because the edge of the clamp cut through the rubber boot!

This was on my secondary inlet boot...not my PDR boots. I removed all turbo boot clamps and smoothed and rounded the edges as best I could. Has held ...so far.

Originally Posted by paulb
One thing to remember is that if you blow a boot, you will most likely end up with oil in the compressor of the turbo.
Your explanation on the oil in my primary makes more sense to me and sounds more reasonable than the explanation I got from someone at BD.... who said it was vacume pressure from the secondary??

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Old 12-19-2007 | 03:31 PM
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153624 where did you get those? They look very Beefy!!
they've been working well so far. I got them at a local bigrig supply store. not a dealership, but truck supply store. Traction HD supply. actually I think its the HD branch of NAPA
Old 12-19-2007 | 04:42 PM
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If you are hunting for nice clamps, with rolled edges, check out Mikalor clamps.
Old 12-19-2007 | 04:59 PM
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Thanks, Look like serious quality!
Serious prices also...but would do the job!
http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/mikalor/

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Old 12-19-2007 | 08:19 PM
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~$20 per clamp looks like, plus shipping which is probably $$$$$ too.
Old 12-19-2007 | 09:51 PM
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About four years ago I bought a complete set of boots, radiator, and heater hoses on a group buy on the TDR. Very high quality (made by sFs), and came with Mikalor clamps. I don't know if the hoses are still available, but I think the Mikalor's may be, so it would be U.S. shipping. All of this came from:

www.spatechnique.com



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