Are all the timing programs the same from 3-9? I'm wondering if level 3 timing is as good as level 9? Is one more agressive than the others? I was wondering what the best street combo's people have seen running the Smarty/TST PM3 Comp???

 

Boost definately comes in harder with the smarty on one of the catcher programs. In moderate accelleration I'll see 10 lbs more boost with sw5 vs sw3. I'm told its the dynamic timing of the catcher program (sw5+) that brings in this effect

Sw9 tst comp 2-4 is perfect. I can burn rubber from a roll with tst 3 so 2 is all I need for daily drving =P

 

Thanks Ph4tty for the help, SW9 it is...

 

Fuel saver program has the most timing from what I've heard. Dynamtic timing means the timing will be reduced at WOT by the ECM?

I'll stick to what I've said before, Smarty #3 runs best in my truck running the 1/4. I'm going to try to run the 1/4 with fuel saver program in the spring. I'll also report back after getting on the rollers in Feb. I'm going to run #3, #1 and 5 to see which gives the best numbers.

 

Keep us posted Mike D...

 

If I get the chance to put mine on the rollers there in Feb. also... I plan on running the Smarty on (3) different levels as well.


K.

 

Sweet. The more info, the better...

 

That'd be a great thing. After driving my truck for a while with the smarty I'm a believer that the smarty just doesn't add enough timing. It adds some but I know that there's just gotta be more in there. I think I'm gonna stack an EZ on my truck for the timing and use the smarty for the bottom end and TST for the top end. To bad Marco's not making any more programs for us. It'd be nice to see a higher timing software. Stupid picky 3rd gen owners.

 

Did Marco say he wasn't building anymore programs for us? I hope that's not the case...

I sent Marco an email not long ago requesting a program similar to #3 with all the fuel the vp44 can deliver via the ECM with additional timing similar to #1 to try at the track. Never heard a reply.

I still feel the same as you Blue. I think there is more work to be done for the over-fueled crowd.

If I can drop 4 tenths going from #7 to number 3, I'm sure some additional timing on top of 3 would be the ticket. Then I'll add the Comp. version TST to the mix.

 

I read a dirty rumor on this forum that marco has no more interest in the 2nd gen crowd since the 3rd gen is where it's all at these days. Kind of a bummer considering that one of the reasons I wanted the smarty was for updates and new programs. Look at the 3rd gen guys, they've got like 12 different programs for aftermarket injectors and boxes and turbos and cold weather and what not and all we got is some anti theft software. Woo hoo. Go us.

 

I can't wait to get mine!! But it does suck that Marco doesn't really care about 2nd gen anymore. There are a lot of us out here that could benifit, BIG time.

 

Well I stand corrected. Just talked to Bob and Marco is in a new facility and is doing some stuff with the 2nd gen trucks.

 

Awesome! I take back what I said. Can't wait to see whats he's doing with it!!

 

So your truck runs better at the track on the lower settings?? Thoughts on reasons why??


K.

 

Blue, I spoke with Bob too... He's going to talk to Marco for me...

NCTurbos, I suspect that with the fueling of the higher software numbers with timing 5,7 and 9 there is too much fuel on the bottom for trucks with larger injector and fueling box. I always felt as though the truck was being held back going down the track. It was an animal off the line, but kind of fell on its face past the 1/8. One other thing I always complained about was the pedal never felt linear, there was no difference between floored and say 3/4 pedal. In some case if I had it matted and let off the truck would surge ahead.

Back when I had the MAD ecm, I actually lost HP on the dyno if I held the pedal to the floor. If I held the pedal about 1 inch off the floor I would record higher numbers. So that lead me to believe Marco had somewhat compressed the fueling trying to bring more fuel on the bottom.

I would run consistent 13.4s to 13.6s depend if I ran 9, 7 or at 99 mph, no matter what I did. I may have cracked 100 mph a couple of times. I wasn't until I ran #5 that I went a 13.3 at 101. So this is what gave me the thought to try #3. The first time I loaded #3 I wasn't crazy about the bottom end, but once the turbo lit I knew I had something. My time slips proved me right.

I have since ran a best of 13.025 at close to 103 mph... The only thing that has changed was running #3...