Sick of this electric lift pump bs...
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I have 200000 miles on my fass150 and has kept my beasty feed a steady 16 psi. Its still going strong. Mines about 6 years old now. Prior to that I went thru three or four lift pumps.
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Glad it's worked out for you.... but it's still electric. To each there own, but it's not my cup of tea. Personally, I'm not going to spend another dime on any electric fuel pump for my truck.
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Big deal.... it's a 20 horsepower rated belt used in a 1/4 horsepower application. I'm not concerned with that. That's like arguing against an electric pump because there is another fuse to maintain.
I could buy 9+ new belts for the cost of 1 stock lift pump.... and I bet I could change that belt about 200 times in the time it would take to change one stock lift pump. I wouldn't let the thought of having another belt sway my decision on a fuel system that is 1000 times more reliable than the stock crap.
This issue can easily turn into one of those "which is better, stick or auto? Which aftermarket auto trans is better?, etc...." type of threads. There are those that prefer and swear by electric pumps and there are those that prefer mechanical.
I could buy 9+ new belts for the cost of 1 stock lift pump.... and I bet I could change that belt about 200 times in the time it would take to change one stock lift pump. I wouldn't let the thought of having another belt sway my decision on a fuel system that is 1000 times more reliable than the stock crap.
This issue can easily turn into one of those "which is better, stick or auto? Which aftermarket auto trans is better?, etc...." type of threads. There are those that prefer and swear by electric pumps and there are those that prefer mechanical.
im sorry if i ruffled your feathers but ill stick with my fass, 100,000 miles and still going strong. time will tell if these pumps turn out to be so great but i guess someone has to be the guniea pig. just my .02
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Fishin' is right though... there is no "fail-proof" pump design. Another reason why I like this setup as it works in parallel to the stock lift pump and will automatically revert back the the stock lift pump incase of a belt failure or the like. Mechanical primary with electric backup... using both technologies for redundacy and reliability.
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Still works well for me...
But I spend all my spare time on my fishing. My truck's main purpose in life is to get my camper and boat to the water
But I spend all my spare time on my fishing. My truck's main purpose in life is to get my camper and boat to the water
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Dare I ask, but what bad experiences have you had with electric pumps? Have you tried a good one yet? Or just cheap ones.
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Sure, you can ask. No, I have not tried a good electric pump... just the OEM replacement Carters. I'm sure the good ones work just fine and there are countless people out there using them. But, like stated above, I don't want to mess with them and since the mechanical setup I bought was virtually the same money as a good electric setup, I chose the mechanical route. It's just my preference.
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take some pics putting it in, im very curious as well. Id love ot run a mechanical pump over electric. they have been in use in race aplications for decades and youll find one on every top fuel car there is. I also have nothing against the electric pumps but the dependability of a mechanical pump is excellent. I bet in 100k miles your not replacing the pump " 3 or 4 times" and bragging about reliability. I bet pump life is well over 200k with proper belt maintenance
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take some pics putting it in, im very curious as well. Id love ot run a mechanical pump over electric. they have been in use in race aplications for decades and youll find one on every top fuel car there is. I also have nothing against the electric pumps but the dependability of a mechanical pump is excellent. I bet in 100k miles your not replacing the pump " 3 or 4 times" and bragging about reliability. I bet pump life is well over 200k with proper belt maintenance
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Install is going to be delayed a bit. I went ahead and ordered a Big Line kit and I'm just going to wait until it gets here and do it all at once. I also ordered a couple extra fittings to slightly modify the Fuel Boss plumbing so that it suits me and is the way I want it.
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Sure, you can ask. No, I have not tried a good electric pump... just the OEM replacement Carters. I'm sure the good ones work just fine and there are countless people out there using them. But, like stated above, I don't want to mess with them and since the mechanical setup I bought was virtually the same money as a good electric setup, I chose the mechanical route. It's just my preference.
Thats fair. But to say "electric pump bs" isnt quite fair when you were replacing it with junk. You didnt actually give it a chance. But it is your preference you are correct. I wish you the best of luck with your set up. IF you have any issues and want an electric pump. Give me a shout and I can fix you up
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Fuel Boss is in. Didn't have time to stop and take pictures as I went, but I can try to get some of everything installed. Very complete kit with everything needed for the install. More than enough hose for the job.... I probabaly have 6 to 8 feet of hose left over.
I made two "upgrades" to the kit to eliminate 3 of the hose barb & clamp connection from the pressurized side of the system. The only remaining hose clamps are on the supply line from the tank and the return line right at the tank. I eliminated 2 of them by tapping one of the JIC tees for 1/8 NPT and screwing the Hobbs pressure switch directly into the side of the tee. I eliminted the other one replacing the factory banjo fitting and Dorman fitting on the inlet side of the stock lift pump with a metric adapter and 90° Push Lock fitting.
Results: at idle 18psi. Anything just above idle (puttering thorugh a parking lot, normal driving, cruising, WOT) is a rock solid 20.5psi.
I made two "upgrades" to the kit to eliminate 3 of the hose barb & clamp connection from the pressurized side of the system. The only remaining hose clamps are on the supply line from the tank and the return line right at the tank. I eliminated 2 of them by tapping one of the JIC tees for 1/8 NPT and screwing the Hobbs pressure switch directly into the side of the tee. I eliminted the other one replacing the factory banjo fitting and Dorman fitting on the inlet side of the stock lift pump with a metric adapter and 90° Push Lock fitting.
Results: at idle 18psi. Anything just above idle (puttering thorugh a parking lot, normal driving, cruising, WOT) is a rock solid 20.5psi.
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