I am looking at replacing my factory infinity speakers (front and rear doors) with aftermarket units. I am looking at using Infinity kappa 693.7i 6x9's for the front and Infinity 63.7i 6.5's for the rear. I am very audio challenged and have a few questions.

1) Will these even fit?
2) I do not want to add an amp (at this point, maybe later) can I just unplug the factory speaker wires and plug these in, using the factory amp that is behind the speakers?
3) The speakers I want say they include crossovers, what are these and where do they go, are they hard to wire/install?
4) How hard of a job is this, is it just a pop-out - pop-in type deal or do I need different wiring?
5)I just want upgraded speakers that will sound clear at louder volumes than stock so I can listen over my exhaust again, but I don't want wal-mart speakers, is this what I am looking for?

I just want some dummy answers here, I've done some searches and it seems as though different people say different speakers do/dont fit. I know component speakers are better but have no desire to mess with that time/expense. I am looking for the best quality I can get with a plug and play install and I am partial to Infinity. So if anyone knows if these will fit and sound good with ease of install let me know. Also it seems as infinity just came out with 693.9i and 63.9i which I think are just the new version of what I am looking at. Should I wait for these (the crossovers look different) or are they basically the same.

Also tips/tricks to getting the door panels off are appreciated!

links to products...

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...7I&tp=91&avf=N

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...108637I&tp=105

Thanks in advance,
-Alex

 

havent done anything yet on my dodge, but i am very familiar with car steros. the best way to know if aftermarket speakers will fit is to just find out what is in your truck now, a 6x9 is a 6x9 no matter how you look at it. an aftermarket head unit will require an adapter harness and an istallation kit to take the factory opening in the dash down to the smaller size for the aftermarket. the best place to find these believe it or not is wal mart. the crossovers shouldnt be included in the speakers. some head units have cross over setting you can adjust on the deck itself. but there are two different types, low pass and high pass. you might not need them depending on what you want. if you dont have subs and an amp you should need them, high pass cross overs wire inline on the positive side of the speaker wire and eliminate ALL bass from the spreaker. i use them when i install full systems to clean up the highs so the only bass you hear is from the sub. as far as an amp i would say you dont really need one, they help to adjust sounds a little better but are kind of a pain to install for just panel speakers. if you get something make sure it doesnt over power your speakers. and just a tip, dont just look at crutch field. they have alot of nice stuff but i use onlinecarstereo.com or caraudio.com. hope this helps

 

Those Infinity Speakers have included crossovers because they are 2 or 3 channel. The crossover is a green box that is about 1.5x3.5x4" and one goes to each speaker. It's not too hard to wire, but I don't remember specifics.

My friend has 4 Infinity Kappa Perfect units in his Vette and it sound tremendous. Even before he got his sub wired in it was great. Now, those crossovers will need to be placed somewhere, but I think you could fit them behind the panel, I don't know. I have not torn into the Dodge yet. I think i will this summer though.

You may end up with a much more involved install with these units.

 

1.) Front will fit, rears are 5.25" not 6.5" so they will fit but will require some work to get in there.
2.) Maybe - the factory amps are impedance matched to the factory speakers. It should still work but they may actually end up not as loud as the factory speakers.
3.) Crossovers divide the frequencies amongst the drivers (highs to tweets, lows to woofers, etc..). If you are getting separate ones they aren't waterproof so don't leave them in the door. Just follow instructions for wiring, not difficult. My feeling though is you aren't getting separate ones with the speakers you listed.
4.) Yes - pop out and in (except for the 6.5" in the read door will require a bit of finesse)
5.) Depends on how the speakers perform with the built-in amps. Head units don't put out enough power to overcome our exhaust (in my opinion). The way to truly overcome it is with an amplifier and speakers, but you may be happy with this. The beauty is if you aren't, add the amp afterward and nothing is lost as the Kappas are nice speakers (if you like your highs that bright).

 

6x9 depth is shallow in the doors (if you want to be able to still roll down your window). Be careful there. Also know the factory tweeters will not work after you replace everything, but it's not like they're worth keeping anyway. I would not recommend running any component type speaker that requires a crossover network without an amplifier. Those type of speakers will give you superior sound but usually at the cost of efficiency and most decks won't power them sufficiently for good volume without clipping. 4 decent speakers and a good aftermarket head unit should give you a decent upgrade in sound quality.

 

The Infinity speakers in my '95 van had the amp built into the speaker itself. You may want to verify if you have line level or amplified input flowing into your speakers first.

 

Yes, I think this is also the case with the infinity speakers in these trucks.

 

IF the Infinity system in these trucks is like most of the Bose factory systems, with the amps and crossovers built into the drivers or darn near them, then that means you'll have to scrap the WHOLE system-- not just the speakers.

Here's a couple things to keep in mind:

-- A higher powered deck (20W rms or better) is enough for most normal listening levels, even with the CTD racket in the background

-- Sound deadening is a good idea because you don't have to crank it up as loud to hear the music-- much better for your ears in the long term.

-- Pay attention to Efficiency ratings (the dB spec). A low efficiency system (87-89dB) requires a lot more power for the same volume level than a higher efficiency system (93+ dB). A difference of 3dB will require a doubling or halving of amp power depending on whether you are gaining or losing sensitivity. So if you're sticking with a deck's built-in power, a higher efficiency speaker is a good idea. With an outboard amp, it doesn't matter that much. Just for illustration, my guitar amp has super efficient speakers (100db rating) and will make your ears bleed with only 15W of power-- they are painfully loud at low power levels.

 

OK fellas, thanks for the replies, here is some answers to your questions so you can better answer mine...

1) What I meant with "will they fit" was mostly mounting depth...I know a 6x9 is a 6x9 but will these be to deep? ( I obviously want to continue using my windows)

2)I read just recently in a thread that someone just unplugged their factory speakers from the factory amps and plugged the new speakers in retaining the factory amps, would this method work with these speakers?

3)Still kinda cloudy on the crossovers, I have decided I dont care what they do, I probably wont understand it even if you explain it in dummy terms, sooooo just tell me if they are a pain to wire and if I need them at all. And yes these speakers have them included, dont no why, but they are there...check the links.

4)The efficiency ratings are 95db I dont know if that is good but that is in the link also if you need more info to help me understand.

5) I picked these speakers because they were 2ohm and were "compatable with all "stock systems" so says the ad (maybe they have never seen the crazy dodge stock infinity system?) so I hope this is okay?

6) Component sets are out! dont want the hassle at this point. Also I DO NOT want an aftermarket head unit. I know I know I need one but I hate the way they look, Id rather have no music....I know the factory one will be way under powered for these but I want good quality and room to grow incase I decide to ad an amp later.

I cant tell you how much I appreciate all the help I have no experience selecting audio components, the wiring doesnt scare me at all its making choices thats the problem. But I would like simple plug in play or as close to it as I can get.

Also simple answers like Yes those work or wire the crossovers like this... make more sense to me than those speakers need 10 kajillvolts that you dont have.

Thanks again guys,
Alex

 

You'll have to pull the factory speakers to find out if the amp is on them. I'm not sure. If it is, then no, you can't keep the factory head unit. It wouldn't have any power to drive the aftermarket speakers.

 

Just an FYI, im no expert but had a system put in my truck with some MB Quartz door speakers, the crossovers that came with them were too big to fit easily in the door, so we wired them in back at the amp, tucked out of the way of harm. And yes they sound awesome with an amp. Crystal clear.

 

MB Quart speakers are some of the finest available... They are something of a staple in car audio contests-- they sound great.

 

jus to put it out there too on the looks of aftermarket decks... ive seen custom fit decks that dont require any kits or anything, just slip into place. jensen makes the nicest one that i have seen in a dodge so far, and if you decide to add an amp, the aftermarket should be a little better paired with an amp as opposed to stock