No to BHAF
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There is always a lot of opinions on air filters, not as many as trannies but close.... Here is my take on the BHAF, several years ago when they first came one the scene I gave on a try and it seemed pretty good. But as time progressed so did our options and so did my filter.
Now fast forward a few years and hundreds of dyno runs later and I can tell you without a doubt that the BHAF isn't any better than the OEM box that has the snorkle removed and a few holes drilled in it. In fact when we dynoed a moderatly modified truck using the OEM filter box vs BHAF the HP actaully went down about 4 RWHP. Now this isn't much but when you dyno as much as I was gaining or loosing any HP was what I was looking for.
In all actuality the only filter that I have dynoed with on a second gen truck that has increased HP over the stock airbox on a modifed truck was an AFE Mega-Cannon. I even went so far as to try a velocity stack and no filter and saw no HP gain over the AFE. This was on a truck making around 600 RWHP.
Doug
Now fast forward a few years and hundreds of dyno runs later and I can tell you without a doubt that the BHAF isn't any better than the OEM box that has the snorkle removed and a few holes drilled in it. In fact when we dynoed a moderatly modified truck using the OEM filter box vs BHAF the HP actaully went down about 4 RWHP. Now this isn't much but when you dyno as much as I was gaining or loosing any HP was what I was looking for.
In all actuality the only filter that I have dynoed with on a second gen truck that has increased HP over the stock airbox on a modifed truck was an AFE Mega-Cannon. I even went so far as to try a velocity stack and no filter and saw no HP gain over the AFE. This was on a truck making around 600 RWHP.
Doug
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Boatnik, here's Wannadiesel's setup. I think it's the best all around setup. It's what I plan to do when my HTT stage III comes in the mail (very soon
) Pieces are found here-- www.airflo.com
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Originally Posted by Jetpilot
There is always a lot of opinions on air filters, not as many as trannies but close.... Here is my take on the BHAF, several years ago when they first came one the scene I gave on a try and it seemed pretty good. But as time progressed so did our options and so did my filter.
Now fast forward a few years and hundreds of dyno runs later and I can tell you without a doubt that the BHAF isn't any better than the OEM box that has the snorkle removed and a few holes drilled in it. In fact when we dynoed a moderatly modified truck using the OEM filter box vs BHAF the HP actaully went down about 4 RWHP. Now this isn't much but when you dyno as much as I was gaining or loosing any HP was what I was looking for.
In all actuality the only filter that I have dynoed with on a second gen truck that has increased HP over the stock airbox on a modifed truck was an AFE Mega-Cannon. I even went so far as to try a velocity stack and no filter and saw no HP gain over the AFE. This was on a truck making around 600 RWHP.
Doug
Now fast forward a few years and hundreds of dyno runs later and I can tell you without a doubt that the BHAF isn't any better than the OEM box that has the snorkle removed and a few holes drilled in it. In fact when we dynoed a moderatly modified truck using the OEM filter box vs BHAF the HP actaully went down about 4 RWHP. Now this isn't much but when you dyno as much as I was gaining or loosing any HP was what I was looking for.
In all actuality the only filter that I have dynoed with on a second gen truck that has increased HP over the stock airbox on a modifed truck was an AFE Mega-Cannon. I even went so far as to try a velocity stack and no filter and saw no HP gain over the AFE. This was on a truck making around 600 RWHP.
Doug
One other thing I'd like to add is, if you can't see a difference on the dyno by the addition of an air filter, how the heck can you feel it on the street?
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Originally Posted by G1625S
Boatnik, here's Wannadiesel's setup. I think it's the best all around setup. It's what I plan to do when my HTT stage III comes in the mail (very soon
) Pieces are found here-- www.airflo.com
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I found them on the link
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You guys are all laughing it up now aren't you? You can't leave well enough alone, can you? Do you realize how much this great buy of a truck is costing ME!
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Originally Posted by Bart Timothy
Amen.
One other thing I'd like to add is, if you can't see a difference on the dyno by the addition of an air filter, how the heck can you feel it on the street?
One other thing I'd like to add is, if you can't see a difference on the dyno by the addition of an air filter, how the heck can you feel it on the street?
You may not make more PEAK horsepower, but spoolup will be better, and it will whistle more in the cab. Peak numbers arent always what you want.
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The Factory Air Filter won't even break a sweat untill 300RWHP.
Stick with the factory one,, you will save money, and the air will be filtered to near perfect.
Merrick
Stick with the factory one,, you will save money, and the air will be filtered to near perfect.
Merrick
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Originally Posted by Boatnik
I haven't given it much thought but I know where a few are and I will find out for certain. THe first gens air filter are mounted behind the head light and I believe the seconds are back by the hinge. If the tube will straighten it might fit. Of course with a little ingenuity and a couple 45 degree elbows??????? ![Smilie](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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The Factory Air Filter won't even break a sweat untill 300RWHP.
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Well It seem like me and you Jr are running close in design again...
I've finally got a heat shield add to mine..
As for the tube idea... Did anyone find out if a 2nd Gen air tube would fit a 1st Gen turbo???
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As for the tube idea... Did anyone find out if a 2nd Gen air tube would fit a 1st Gen turbo???
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I always thought the stock 1st. Gen. filter was nearly a BHAF. I spaced the plate on my '92 out a 1/2 for more air access.
I'm surprised a velocity stack didn't improve anything. Was it at least 2 diameters long?
I'm surprised a velocity stack didn't improve anything. Was it at least 2 diameters long?
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Originally Posted by cumminsdriver635
You may not make more PEAK horsepower, but spoolup will be better, and it will whistle more in the cab. Peak numbers arent always what you want.
Eric
Eric
The BHAF does,'t help spooling. If you can't see it on the dyno, you only think you're feeling it on the street.
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Originally Posted by TRCM
Oh NO !!
not another one !!!
(retired navy nuke here)
not another one !!!
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