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Old 02-25-2009 | 04:11 PM
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How thick is the tubing on that header? Does the header support the turbo or is there a bracket for that?
Old 02-25-2009 | 07:31 PM
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was the exhaust probe in the same location on the ats man. bad comparison on egts if it wasnt. impressive loss on egts though just wondering if it could be more possibly???
Old 02-26-2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lary Ellis (Top)
Yes I had him put the pyro bung on #6 since it is the hottest cylinder on my 12 valve. Wait till you see how this thing looks polished I will have that done this weekend I hope.
I would assume by this comment that he did have it in the same port as before. Otherwise he wouldn't have known it was the hottest cyl.
Old 02-26-2009 | 03:42 PM
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No I had the pyro put on #6 for my header, I do not know where it was on the test vehicle.
Old 02-26-2009 | 10:53 PM
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The pyro bung was on #6 on the test vehicle as well. Im not sure where they are on an ATS but most of our headers are run on #6.
Old 02-27-2009 | 12:18 AM
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I'm sure that there are those that will laugh at this price, I for one know what it's like to work with stainless, not too much trouble but still, this is a great price. I'll take one !
Old 02-27-2009 | 12:26 AM
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I got the order Joe, and will process it in the AM.
Old 03-04-2009 | 01:31 PM
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What are the dyno # compard to the stock unit?
Old 03-04-2009 | 02:24 PM
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What are the dyno # compard to the stock unit?
I don't have any dyno numbers compared to stock, but with the huge increase seen compared to another very popular aftermarket unit, I would have to think their would be a HUGE gain.
Old 03-04-2009 | 02:27 PM
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Ya i saw that. Im sorry i posted befor i read everything!
Old 03-19-2009 | 12:44 AM
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installed the overkill

Some notes and pics for those interested. This job took me and a friend 3 hours to do. Release boot, oil return, and exhaust from turbo. You will have to purchase some new metric bolts to mount the header to the head. Cyl. numbers 1 thru 6 on the bottom and 1 and 6 on the top will get the new bolts, shorter, I chose stainless socket head. 2 thru 5 on the top row will require studs for the tight fit won't allow bolts, so we took the nuts off of the turbo to manifold joint and used them on the studs. We took allthread cut to length, used locktite red and installed. Header to the turbo, we used 3/8 stainless socket head bolts on the right side, had to make studs on the left because of the tight fit. Install exh. probe as the manifold is going in. Weld quality good, will keep an eye out for movement and cracking. The header fit to the head great, easy. Put on your liquid wrench at home when you shut if off for the night, it helped. Have not got the chance to run it a few times yet. Upon crusing home on surface streets the engine seemed to be putting out a little more smoke than usual upon lockup in third, overdrive locked out. Overall for the install I'm pleased. Note, this 95 12V has 206,000 on it and I keep it clean, sure is nice workin in clean !
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Old 03-21-2009 | 12:00 PM
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I've ran this now for a couple days and it provides an astonishing amount of better air flow, very very noticeable. Now I'm headed towards turbo upgrading and 3000 GSK.
Old 03-31-2009 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lary Ellis (Top)

They dyno'd the truck with a ATS manifold on it, then swapped to this new header and dyno'd again. The results were from the same truck, same tune, same day:

ATS manifold 804.5 HP #44 boost 1350 egt

Stainless Header 815.4 HP #52 boost 1225 egt


These results were done on Floor it's dyno.
can someone plz explain how changing from a ats 3 pc to a stainless 3 pc produced 8 pounds of additional boost?

thanks, don
Old 03-31-2009 | 04:21 PM
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can someone plz explain how changing from a ats 3 pc to a stainless 3 pc produced 8 pounds of additional boost?

thanks, don
Theorectically, improved flow in the header means faster turbo spool and a faster turbo means more boost. Would love to see the drive pressure numbers to go with the boost numbers.
Old 03-31-2009 | 05:21 PM
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Hi Lary, do you have any numbers with a stock manifold on vs. the new one ?



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