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Neep help with 3000 gwk, please

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Old 05-31-2007, 02:23 PM
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Neep help with 3000 gwk, please

I opened up the inspection hole on the side of the pump with a 7/8 socket, turned the motor over from the starter and could never see the plate or spring. there is also oil to the very edge of the opening. Any advice please???
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the springs go by fast if u bar the engine to fast. I'd reccomend barring the engine from a damper bolt or the alternator bolt, and just bar it alittle and check for the retainer nut. u won't see springs, u'll just see the retainer nut and washer that hold the springs down under it. If u still have trouble through the side, doing it through the top isn't hard at all, plus u can see really good.

the oil is normal up to that spot, the pump is lubed by it.
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Even easier if you have someone bar the engine, and you look in the hole. PDR has good directions, with a picture of what you will see, look here:

http://www.piersdiesel.com/TechGSK12V.htm
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Yeah I was turning it by the alternator (forgot to mention that, sorry) but i was turning 1 full rotation of the ratchet handle at a time. I also had the top open at the same time but i looked through the side 80% of the time because I noticed most say they go through the side. The washer goes on top of the outer most spring right?
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yea, the washer holds all 3 springs down. Just do it real slow once and u'll see the first gsk, bar it 1/4 turns or less and keep checking unless u can get a friend to do it while u watch the pump.
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what do you think the hardest part of doing this mod is? just dont wanna press my luck. and my washers are 3/4" OD and a little over 1/2" inside. will that be ok?
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I used the 3k GSK from TST, so I can't comment on the washers part, hopefully Box will jump back in with a reply. But if you use the store bought kit with the springs, like I did, the hardest thing is making sure that the nuts get screwed back in to exactly the same spot. I measured it with the caliper, and counted the turns and the clicks, and I had no issues, I didn't even have to adjust the idle. If you make the nuts too tight or too lose, you'll get a crappy idle.

However, if you do use your own home made washers, then I believe you'll have to play with the nuts until you get a smooth idle. Most guys that use the washers eventually get good results, but I didn't want to mess around too much, so I just got the 3k GSK and I'm happy.
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I didn't respond either because I bought my kit from city diesel, lol. I'm not sure about what washer to use, that gunracer thread should have all the details on the right washer to use. I think u just put the washer on top of the two inner springs, so really its ALOT easier than doing a full gsk kit because u don't even take out the springs shims or seat.
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OK, I'm ready to take the plunge.. Just recieved my kit from City Diesel, & the pictures I got leave a lot to be desired..You say measure with a Vernier Caliper.. measure from where to where.?. And what part of the caliprt do I use for measuring.. i see 3 parts, the inside dia., the outside dia., & when you open the caliper the thin flat rod comes out of the handle end.?. And does the plate have to come out to do the GSK?? If so, I may as well put my plate in the same time,.
Thanks in advance..
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City diesel's instructions are for going in through the top so it's up to you if u want to go throught the side. The plate has to come out. Just count the number of turns it takes for the nut to come off and u'll be fine.
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