dieselbeef

imm looking for the best mostest powerful box that wont tap the wire and i DO NOT WANT A DOWNLOADER.

ive got an ez but im looking for some more power. got a good tranny.

gotta be a proven unit. dont care about on the fly or anything like that. already got all the guages so a box with all thats a waste for me


so whats out there???

blackdiesel

a non wire tap box isnt "powerful"

i guess the only thing that there is really is the ez or van aaken

Truckman

I have a stock engine with a K&N Drop in filter, I bought a used EZ on eBaythat had a problem with it SO I dont know how they really worked, so I sent it back to EDGE and they offered me the upgrade to a COMP,, AND I'll tell you what, IF my EZ worked like this I would have never sent it back,,AND I DONT have the pump wire tapped.The torque comes in so early now it's crazy,Compared to stock. Plus I also have 4:10's SO 90MPH is fast to me,,and it seams to get ther alot quicker now. so I vote COMP.



Engine is a = 2001 ISB 185,out of a 35 passenger bus,With my stock 1998.5 ISB 235 Injection Pump and injectors,K&N Dropin,

Tate

EZ is about as much as you are going to get out of that truck without tapping the wire. If you want more, maybe start looking at some sticks? Or a comp box even. Tried my old comp on another member's truck, and without the wire being tapped (properly), it did make a noticeable difference. Made the same power on levels 1 through 5 though.

Any reason why you don't want a tuner on your truck?

ib516

All of the boxes and programmers/downloaders for that matter are all pretty much the same as far as what the manufacturer of each says it'll add for power. It's usually around 60-70hp and 160-180tq. That's about all you can get w/o tapping the pump wire.

I like my EZ, and have had no problems with it. I DID have problems with a Superchip downloader, kept setting codes.

Timberman

What kind of power/torque increases can you expect to gain by tapping the wire? If you're at 60 hp and 180 tq without the tap, what would you be at with it?

graphitecumnz

Most wiretap boxes give upwards of 120hp and 350lb-ft.... this will vary though depending on which VP-44 you have.... H.O.'s typically see less ponies than advertised.

NoSeeUm

What do you have against the downloaders?

Jim

dieselbeef

none really. i just feel like the comps in these trucks with the vp-44 and all are so finicky and troublesome as it is that i really dont wanna risk messin with it.

trying to keep the grief factor as low as possible.


looks like the comp is the best bet.

where can i buy one of those tap things for the pump

Big Blue24

If you buy an Edge Comp, it comes with everything you need to install, tap wire, mount, boost elbow on turbo to raise maximum boost pressure before wastegate opens, mine is for sale, just removed it sat. I will not part with it for less than 325. It will be on ebay soon otherwise.

displacedtexan

If you want the most power from a box, check out the TST Comp version, or call Blue Chip, I believe they will custom program one for you. I believe the TST Comp is 180 hp on a non ETH engine.

Big Blue24

What does non ETH stand for. I know it means 235 HP not 245 HP. But ETH???

displacedtexan

ETH=HO It's the Dodge code for the HO engine...

Big Blue24

Oh, its a fancy way of saying High Output.. ive been trying to figure out an acronym for that since last christmas... It's a silly code!

displacedtexan

See, now you can use it and look smart