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Old 01-23-2006 | 04:12 PM
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Mach 4's.

Anyone running Mach 4's with a stock turbo and no fueling box?

What kind of boost are you seeing and what are your EGTs like when empty WOT?

Just curious,
Old 01-23-2006 | 05:59 PM
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I know that HOHN was running them like that. Let me see if I can find an old post where he talked about it.

EDIT: Here it is... https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ad.php?t=72033
Old 01-24-2006 | 04:35 PM
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Looks like me and Hohn are it.

I'll post my findings for those interested in getting some bigger sticks.

I have some 4.5 in the truck. At WOT I'm seeing about 38-39 lbs of boost (stock turbo HX35/12) and about 850-875 degrees post turbo temp, I'm going to move the pyro pre-turbo soon. Cruising down the hwy. I'm at 550 deg. at 65 mph. From my understanding post turbo temps messure roughly 300 deg less than pre. with little boost, I personally think it's about the same just cruising down the highway maybe only 100 degrees different, but as the boost comes up the difference in temps grows.

From a stand still with zero boost matted, smoke is a problem... After say 20 lbs of boost it pretty clear behind me.

I guess it will get interesting once I decide to add a fueling box.

I'll be keeping a close eye on the turbo threads.
Old 01-31-2006 | 04:59 PM
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I've added some electronics. No more stock ECM
Old 02-01-2006 | 09:59 AM
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I've added some electronics. No more stock ECM
Beta bragger!!! I have pretty much the same setup as you if you run on Smarty level 9...

Justin, Have you had a chance to dyno yet? I'm going to try to dyno this weekend.
Old 02-03-2006 | 11:22 AM
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No dyno. All it would do is show how badly outclassed my stock clutch is. Besides, my turbo's done ~ 32psi, and it will go up to 38psi.

I need a clutch before I can dyno. It holds just fine in daily driving (for today, anyway) but that could change tomorrow (I think it's starting to already)
Old 02-03-2006 | 12:53 PM
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yea i found out my stock turbo is biting the dust...during my oil change last night i jsut happened to grab the shaft...only to find a bit of play in it...42 psi will do that tho. banks big head wastegate doesnt open even at 40+ psi
Old 02-06-2006 | 09:25 AM
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Over the weekend I got a chance to put the truck on the rollers.

My previous dyno numbers were 244/582, that was with MAD/Catcher ecm and RV275's injectors.

This weekend the only thing that changed was adding Don's Mach 4s. The numbers were 360/840. So I gained roughly 115 HP and 260 Trq.

With a nice turbo I'll crack 400 hp w/out a fueling box.
Old 02-06-2006 | 10:11 AM
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Thats awesome Mike! With a HTB2 or similar, 410 HP would be cake.

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Old 02-06-2006 | 10:23 AM
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Thanks Don. After seeing a couple of my fellow NC Chapter members ( The PapaSmurfs) gain 60hp with a HTB2 turbo swap, I agree.
Old 02-06-2006 | 03:51 PM
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Thats awesome Mike! With a HTB2 or similar, 410 HP would be cake.

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Heck, Bob did 401 with a little DZ.

With a bigger turbine size and more lag, you could probably get near 420.

I'd rather have a quick-spooling 410, though.
Old 02-06-2006 | 05:09 PM
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hey whats the price on thos mach 4's?

and where are they cheapest? website???

on a 215 - 12 valve with 370's and an HTB2 /12
how much would the power increase be?
never dynoed! 105 mph in 1/4

thanks fellas
Old 02-06-2006 | 10:19 PM
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I bet that's a nice kick in the pants Mike!

12valve, no Mach4's for us properly valved folk, but I'll let you know how DDP4's work in less than a month..
Old 02-07-2006 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 12valve
hey whats the price on thos mach 4's?

and where are they cheapest? website???
Prices and distributers can be found here:
http://www.f1diesel.com/injectors12.html
http://www.f1diesel.com/contacts.html
Old 02-07-2006 | 08:28 AM
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I bet that's a nice kick in the pants Mike!

12valve, no Mach4's for us properly valved folk, but I'll let you know how DDP4's work in less than a month..
I think that once you get Lenny's sticks in, you won't be injector shopping for a long time. Good injectors, is the word that I hear.

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