Mike D

I ran a regular TST on #9 and Smarty on #3...


I think you're right. TST comp is the way to go. I'll see if John_P still has his box laying around to try at the track again.

Mcmopar

He sold it.

Mike D

I'm kind of surprised with 900+ views and 4 pages long, neither Marco nor Bob Wagner has put forth a reply. Maybe they're too busy with the 3rd Gens right now?

Tiger Rag

Honestly, I'll be surprised if any new programs are made for the 2nd gen Smarty unless there is some major issue. I would guess Marco would move along to the next revenue generating project, ie., New Cummins, Duramax or Powerstroke. Not sure if that is in the works or not, but I would guess so. I would love to see some more programs but from a business perspective, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Mike D

I have more faith then that Matt. I'm sure they're busy with new projects, but they'll get back to us 2nd Gen guys when time allows. I was just hoping for some feedback from Marco.

getblown5.9

ill still keep my fingers crossed for the HRVP44 guys with a real aggressive tune...not sure if its even possible but ill be waiting!

i think a good 2.1 60' launch in 3rd gear will net me a 13...this thing pulls so hard from idle right to redline now, smooth power throughout.

with hx55 and less fuel it used to have just top end...15.8@96

then with B1 and drag comp i had bottom end, but dying VP44 wiped out top end power 15.1@89-90mph

im thinking now with the traction bars, and lots more power that i have the potential to run mid-low 14's and dip into the 13's with the perfect launch

Tiger Rag

I hope you are right Mike, and by the way, my comment was in no way meant to bash Marco or the Smarty. I just figured they had a good running product and it was time to move on. I hope they do tweak some programs and hopefully our input will help.

getblown5.9

TR, i dont blame your thinking, business is business and if those guys can dive into the market of making smarty's for powerstrokes or duramaxes they will have as big of a hit as they had with the dodge guys. they make a good product, and sometimes in the business world you need to move along and not spend TOO much time and money developing products for an engine thats no longer made.

IE: nobody wants to make a large quantity of the MLS head gaskets for second gens because they wont sell a HUGE amount of them for an engine thats no longer produced...they would rather make products that are going to be used in LARGE quantities, like 3rd gen motors or the new 6.7

Mike D

I agree with everything said guys. It's smart business all around, but they don't want to forget the guys that got them where they are today.

Second Gen guys bought, first the Madd ecms then upgraded to the Smarty and generated a lot of sales for Marco in the interim. I don't think the Smarty would have taken off for the 3rd Gens as fast had it not been for the 2nd Gen proving grounds.

Like I said before, I have faith. Maybe this thread will get the wheels turning in Marco's head to come up with an even better program for over-fueled guys. In the meantime I'll enjoy #3!

Dieselcamper

I bought the Smarty on the assumption that there
were going to be numerous updates / downloads for
the second Gen Smarty. I still hope this is the case.
I think that most people agree that the fueling on
the low end with low boost ,needs to come in at
a more gradual flow. The sudden "dump" of fuel is what
is causing the "bog" and excessive smoke when you
hammer the throttle at low rpm / boost. I really like the
upper rpm anti-defueling on the Smarty , but if there are
not going to be anymore updates or program refinements
I'm going back to my old box that pulled just as hard with
80% less smoke I think that now that all the Dodges
are covered right now ,feedback should be gathered from
Smarty owners and "tweeks" made to the various program #'s
JMHO

Tiger Rag

Well, don't take my word on it.....I'm just making an assumption myself. With the new diesel engines coming out, there is a lot to keep up with if Marco is the only one doing the research and programming. I'm sure Edge/TST/Banks/ whoever else has multiple folks on staff to do this. There is so much with these new diesels to try to keep up with I'm just saying that would make sense from a business standpoint. Not sure Marco has enough hours in the day to backtrack on sold, basically obsolete units at this point. I guess maybe he can keep in mind that we the current 2nd gen owners will likely be in a 3rd gen or newer gen at some point. Anyway, I didn't mean to open pandora's box, just stating an observation.

Well, stated. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Dieselcamper

If Marco could add a little more timing and add
fuel based on boost levels , along with the rest
of the Smarty features, I would be extremely happy.
Maybe something like 0 psi-25% fuel , 5 psi-50% fuel ,
10psi-100% fuel

Ph4tty

Look the smarty was made with a usb so it *could* be updated in the future so chill The '06's are going to be rolling out and there are updates being made on the current cp3 smarty programs.

With that said my testing thus far hasn't been the same as Mike's. I do not have the tst currently- just running the smarty. Basically I have an approximate 1/4 mile marked off so I can make runs going for trap speed. With sw3 my best is 85 mph, but with sw7 I've hit 88. I'll switch to sw5 or 9 and make some more runs later this week.

I'm sure the tst is giving Mike and GB better top end than I have right now, but I'll continue testing when I get the tst on there- prolly next week.

BTW if my 1/4 is accurate would those traps be good for 15's? High 14's?

Tiger Rag

My 1/4 mile times in the 15's have had 93,94 and 95 mph trap speeds. My 60 foot times are usually in the 2.20's - 2.30's though.

getblown5.9

ive run anywhere from 15.1@90 to 15.8@96

with the 6spds its so hard to gauge it because with one off key shift the run is shot.