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Just tested out the Smarty VP44 Beta

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Old 08-30-2007, 09:18 PM
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Just tested out the Smarty VP44 Beta

Well just got back from a test run with the new Smarty Beta for the VP44 trucks. Well there definetly is no speed limiter. Ran it past an dash indicated 120 (aka buried) and a GPS indicated 134. Runs real strong all the way past redline. Probably need to get some decent springs now. But it pushed past 3400 rpms indicated on the dash, with no end in fueling. I wasn't comfortable pushing it much past that RPM or speed and will let others run it harder and farther past the envelope then I did. But I would like to know what changes were made and if the things I experienced seem to line up with what changes that were made.
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How can I get ahold of this programming? I'll take it as high as it'll let me!!!
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So there is a update for the 2nd gen smarty?
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Where did you find this update???? I would love to try it.
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I believe it's just in beta Testing to a Select few, not open to public yet.
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One of Bob's latest posts in another thread about the lack of USB updates said to email him (Bob Wagner) to get the s/w


EDIT: Click here for thread, see post #117

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Old 08-31-2007, 08:18 AM
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really?? thats sweet chris! think that will effect E.T.s? ill call you next time i go!
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I didnt get a chance to run it back to back with the TST on and off last night. But I did this morning. The good news is it feels as though its picked up some HP over the old programming and has no problem making 32 PSI of boost EGTs still in check and runs real smooth. Bad news (if you can call it that) is with the TST on it runs much harder. You can diffinetly feel the difference in power up high bewtween them, but it runs even stronger with the TST/Smarty stack. Didnt break any landspeed records on the stack as I'm way overfueled and EGTs were pegged, I let off at a dash indicated 120, as I didn't have access to GPS on my morning drive into work.

As far as getting it. Simply email Bob and he'll set you up. I'm anxiously awaiting what changes were made. As it seems like it runs harder and they may have found some HP left in the tuning. Also I ran the truck up to and past 3400 rpms (dash indicated) this morning although it was in 3rd gear. Seemed to be pulling hard just not as hard with the TST on.
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Do you still run the stock turbo?
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hmmm...maybe i will have some info soon
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TJ you need to get Marco to make you a Pullin Program.
Old 08-31-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AlpineRAM
Do you still run the stock turbo?
Yeah I'm still running the little ole HY-35. I'm at almost 6000 ft so air is scarce, and I need every little bit of spool I can get. I am looking into a Dodgezilla with a 12cm wastegated housing.
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I just don't think it is a good idea to rev a stock engine any higher than 3200rpm. I've heard too many stories of guys dropping valve seats & stuff.
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Originally Posted by J Lent
I just don't think it is a good idea to rev a stock engine any higher than 3200rpm. I've heard too many stories of guys dropping valve seats & stuff.
I agree 100%. Springs are on the list. Really just wanted to put the Beta thru its paces.
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Originally Posted by J Lent
I just don't think it is a good idea to rev a stock engine any higher than 3200rpm. I've heard too many stories of guys dropping valve seats & stuff.
There are no valve seats. Valve springs are necessary though, if you get to enough valve float you can have the valve hit the piston. But you can also manage to get this with too much boost at stock rpm.

cspotrun: For us high altitude guys it would be very interesting to build twins with the HY and a clever wastegate. Maybe an SPS66 or something like that as a primary. Or maybe even an HX35/40 hybrid as a primary, should get you the nice HY spool and since you keep both compressors in the fat part of their respective maps it should suffice for something like 400hp with decent EGTs and decent backpressure.


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