yung cummmins

dose any one kno if it is possible to use the juice without tapping the vp44 injection wire.... i had the 120 box from qzilla but blew the vp44 and i dont really want to drop 2 grand on another one if you kno what i mean

Adam3291

Yes, you can. It is pretty much an Edge EZ power wise if it is not tapped.

yung cummmins

but how much of a difference is it going to be

yung cummmins

what kinda power?

yung cummmins

thanks but what do i do with those wires

muddin_mavric

you should get about 65 HP and 180 ft lb Torque. Just dont do anything with tap for the pump wire.

qzilla

It will be like L1 on the box you had.

If you don't want to tap the pump wire and you don't want to spend 3 times too much money for 65hp then look at the XZT+ we have.

yung cummmins

do the gauges still work and will the ajustable feul input still work

muddin_mavric

yes the juice with att. works the exact same with or with out the wire taped. the only diff. is that you are minus about 60 hp. so the only diff from level 1 or 2 to level 5 is the fueling down low.

yung cummmins

thanks adam

yung cummmins

qzilla i looked at the XZT+ and it sounds gerat and i called and talked to them about it but i think im going to get the edge and just tap the wire plus i want the gagues and alerts

Adam3291

Warning, if you are going to tap it and dog it all the time you need to do some tranny upgrades. I HAD a Juice w/ Attitude for 6 months and fried the tranny in my truck. I would say get a good torque convertor and valve body. I have an extended warranty on my truck so Mopar footed the replacement for my 99 since it only has 79,000 on it right now. I would recommend a good torque convetor and valve body. But if you plan for big power billet shafts are the way to go. I'm starting all over again with my truck, still have the billet shafts I never used waiting for a good deal on a torque convertor and valve body to pop up. But the one good thing now is I don't have to worry about replacing the seals and stuff since I got a new tranny.

yung cummmins

what if i just get on it at 50mph and up do u think it will kill that tranny and what do u think about that ats trans w/ 2year waranty if thats the case

Adam3291

I would recommend Goerend or DTT. Suncoast makes a good one as well.

haloman

The edge j/a tapped will kill a stock auto if you floor it at any point of RPM multiple times. I've seen it happen twice, it didnt leave him stranded but it wouldnt go above 45mph. Goerand Bros built auto took care of that.