jammer nozzles vs jammer injectors
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jammer nozzles vs jammer injectors
Okay, I'm going to end up getting one or the other..I'm thinking 150 hp nozzles instead of the injectors due to price...I was just wondering if i should go ahead and buy the injectors instead...opinions?
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The injectors will be pop tested to flow correct the nozzles are supossed to be pop tested by the purchaser(by taking to an injection shop). Most people that get the nozzles dont pop test them and they work perfect. If you not looking to spend the money on a real good injector then just get the nozzles and lap them in. I had jammers 150s for about 2 months and they were awesome for the price but smokey as heck. I now have old mach5s from my cousin and they are smokey as heck x2 compared to his mach6s but they make more power than the jammers x2 in the seat dyno. But jammmers are the cheap way for good power if your not goin crazy.
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The injectors will be pop tested to flow correct the nozzles are supossed to be pop tested by the purchaser(by taking to an injection shop). Most people that get the nozzles dont pop test them and they work perfect. If you not looking to spend the money on a real good injector then just get the nozzles and lap them in. I had jammers 150s for about 2 months and they were awesome for the price but smokey as heck. I now have old mach5s from my cousin and they are smokey as heck x2 compared to his mach6s but they make more power than the jammers x2 in the seat dyno. But jammmers are the cheap way for good power if your not goin crazy.
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You will deffinately need a clutch upgrade too if you get the jammers. Also to get full power of them you will need a bigger turbo than the hx35. I couldnt run my edge comp on any setting higher than 1x5 with out having issues(surging, pegging 40lb boost gauge, high fuel consumption). You dont want your hx 35 to go over 35-38lbs of boost. It will fail sooner or later.
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You will deffinately need a clutch upgrade too if you get the jammers. Also to get full power of them you will need a bigger turbo than the hx35. I couldnt run my edge comp on any setting higher than 1x5 with out having issues(surging, pegging 40lb boost gauge, high fuel consumption). You dont want your hx 35 to go over 35-38lbs of boost. It will fail sooner or later.
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I found turning the box off it runs like a slug kinda. The lowest setting on the box 1x1 is good because you still have the timing advance. That helps out a ton. 1x5 was the hardest pulling setting with a stock turbo for me but 1x1 was the best daily driveing and mpg then.
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If you are blowing smoke ( which we all want from time to time for spite sake) are you getting all the power your pick em up has to offer?
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Rocky5.9 The answer is no! If it is smoking you have lots of extra fuel to burn. You need more air. Set the boost on your HX35 to 36psi and if thats not enough then you need a turbo that will supply more air. Good cold air intake will help to.
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Hey diesel fan, do you tow with those Jammer 3's? What kind of egt's? I want to run 4's but don't think I can do my occasional 5K tow with 4's and my stock turbo.
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i dont tow. but you have the bigger exhaust housing so you should be fine with the 4's.
with the smarty and the 3's the most i can get out of it is 1250 degrees @ WOT. get the 4's.
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I just talked a local shop owner who previously worked for HTT for 20 years. He said that 99% of the time when they flow test a set of edge nozzles, they vary from 35 lpm to 5 liters per minute in the same set of 5's. He said that equates to basically a mix between 1's and 6's in the same set. He usually has to buy ten sets just to make one matched set within 3% of flow match. He still sells the other nozzle's but he said that he regrades them as 1's through 5's based upon flow. A real 150 HP nozzle should flow 30 liters per minute. And they get some as high as 35 lpm which equates to 175 HP. That is why jammer nozzles idle so rough. When he matches a set, they run pretty good he said. After our two hour discussion on turbo upgrading and towing with injectors, i opted to buy some rv 300 hp injectors for a steal of a deal on ebay, 262 $ shipped. Oh, I will never buy an extrude honed injector either... PM me and I'll tell you about that.
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I'm originally from Spokane, WA... That is where 90 percent of the diesel fuel injectors are honed, in one single manufacturing plant there. Ask Don, the guys at dynomite diesel, BD, Bully Dog, they all ship out to the same plant to get their injectors honed. Interesting to note, however, CAT and Cummins, and Bosch do not hone their injectors.