is there a kit i can use if i want to take the intercooler out of my truck and just run it non intercooled? i would like to use my stock turbo.

 

WHY? Kind of counter productive............

 

lol. i know, but i put a 12v from a dodge into my 1/2 ton ford and there is no room for an intercooler. and being a 1/2 ton i dont tnhink it needs an intercooler anyways.

 

I'd figure out something.......the egt's are the biggest concern. Even though it is a 1/2 ton, then engine doesn't know that and the pump would need turned down in order to get the egt's under control. I'm no 12V pump expert by any means, but I know if they were designed to be intercooled, you'll more than likely melt some expensive parts if you don't watch the egt's or "de-tune" the engine somehow. Surely there is a way to mount an intercooler in there. They are the same as the 3/4 ton bodies.....

 

If you don't have room for a front mounted intercooler, then maybe an air-water cooler would work better for you. This way, you can mount it pretty much anywhere. It probably wouldn't be real cheap, but again, it should help solve your problem.

 

Is there a kit? No. You simply need the appropriate size tubes and silicone connectors to run said tube from the turbo output to the intake manifold.

Now, that said, don't do it. The size of the truck you dropped it into has no effect on the need of the intercooler. If you remove it you should detune the engine appropriately (and you won't like it) Ever drive a 1st gen Ram? They are not intercooled. Try finding a diesel 250 you can see what parts are needed for the intercooler- probably just core supports.

 

A properly tuned truck DOES NOT need an intercooler. Many semi's, and even the first ram CTD's, were non-intercooled. And some of today's drag race trucks don't run intercoolers. You won't get away with alot of power without the intercooler, but it is doable. If the motor will stay at stock levels powerwise, and will be used as a driver, not a tow vehicle, I'd say you'd be just fine. You may want to check into the intake horn and piping for an 89-early 91 Ram CTD.

 

Or go to a water injection setup, that's what one of the Cummins dragsters used to do to keep egts in check without an intercooler.

 

The difference IS....he wants to use an engine that was origianlly designed to be used with an intercooler. Lets be realistic folks......a drag car can get away with it for 15 seconds at a time! I will agree that it can be done, but in HIS scenario it will either take an intercooler, a different pump from an engine designed to run without an intercooler, or detune his current pump.

 

The size of the vehicle he is putting it into IS important, as there could be serious weight loss going on. Grab the bits from a First Gen to hook it up without the intercooler. If he doesn't like it, he can work outsomething later, with little money lost.

 

Fairly expensive to rebuild, even a 12V, because of a melted piston or 6. I guess I'll have to respectfully disagree and leave it at that.

 

Running the engine without an intercooler will not wreck it. Running it past its limits will. If you have gauges, it will easily be manageable.

 

I see exactly where you are coming from with that. Yes, the motor in question was put in a truck with an intercooler, but there are B series 5.9's with p-pumps without them. I can't tell you the application right off hand, but they exist.

Anyways, going back to the semi analogy, those trucks are worked hard, for hours on end. Where I work, and drive, we have (3) 855ci Cummins in Freightliners, 2 of which are not intercooled. All three are 350hp rated(NTC350's). And one of them has over 2 million miles on it, just got tore down for a pitted cylinder wall. You don't need an intercooler if driven properly and tuned properly.

The motor in question is half the displacement, going into something 1/10th the weight, and half the power. Even if it gets turned up, if driven and done right, I don't see any problems.

Other than that, water/meth could be used as a chemical intercooler if needbe.

 

Agreed.......IF it were designed to run that way. The engine/pump configuration he is attempting to use was NOT designed that way. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done. Just needs done with the appropriate pump, or simply add the intercooler.

 

You will have to detune the pump and change the injectors out in order to run that way. Find a smaller intercooler from an aftermarket application.