Hey Stakeman-You may as well delete my post you left up since the others vanished.......

 

The post in question follows the guidelines. I see no reason to pull that post.

 

OK, great! Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me.<br><br>So Mark-why should someone choose your two charger set-up? What makes it better than others that are for sale? I mean it's still a 35/ht3, right? And how about your three charger set-up? If ya don't mind.....what chargers are you gonna run? How many stages? Can you explain how a three charger setup works? Just trying to learn something here.

 

NEVRENUFHP,

IMHO Proper warmup is 180 / 190 F water Temp. Then I l still like to wait 5 more minutes then &quot;Blacken the Stacks&quot; 8)

P.S., If I may ask what does &quot;NEVRENUFHP&quot; stand for?

 

Never Enough Horsepower

 

Seems obivious now Thanks.

That does raise a question? What is enough?

BullWagon,

Mark may take a day or two to reply to your post.
Last I heard he was driving a Truck from Colorado to south Texas? And texas is having BaseBall size Hail. OUCH!

L8tr Kurt

 

[quote author=KwikKurt link=board=7;threadid=12832;start=45#124961 date=1049688928]<br> And texas is having BaseBall size Hail. OUCH!<br>[/quote]<br><br>Try SOFTBALL!!! :'(

 

Enuf is all you can afford at the time. Knowing there's more to be had. If I didn't have 4 kids I could get more hp. <br><br>What can be done (damage) if it's too cold? My co-workers need to know, we drive med. duty trucks at work. Like IH DT466, Cat 3208, and Ford 478&quot;. A few have been played with(more fuel). One guy(hard headed) starts a truck with almost 1/2 the pedal, and when it starts the engine of course poofs out smoke, but it hits about 1500rpm by the time he lets off. I keep my truck running when he's around. Sorry, too far off topic. :-[

 

Although most of your engine componets are still coated with oil - Most of your bearings rely on Oil pressure as well as Shaft speed to form a &quot;OIL Wedge&quot;. What this means is the shaft (Crank, Cam or Rod) that is inside of the bearing are floating in oil. And they actually never touch metal to metal. EXCEPT when shut down and during cranking or startup.

The most critical would be your Turbo's Bearings. The turbo is often the last componet to get good Oil pressure. If it takes 2 to 10 seconds to get pressure and you have raised the engines RPM the Turbo could be spinning at or above 70,000 - 100,000 or even more especially during boost conditions.

The Turbo spins pretty fast even at idle.

Some say that 70 to 90+% of engine wear is at startup and during the warm up phase.

I would say for turbo's bearings the wear rate is even higher. It is a bad idea to rev up your engine right before shutdown or startup. When you rev it up prior to shut down the oil pressure drops as soon as you turn off the key. Your Turbo charger spins for a long time before it stops. THe Bigger the turbo the longer it spins at shutdown. And during starup the turbo starts spinning often while you are still cranking.

I would say this could never be too far off topic to discuss. :-X

TexasDieselkid... Would that be FastPitch or SlowPitch?? ;D ;D
L8tr Kurt 8)

 

[quote author=KwikKurt link=board=7;threadid=12832;start=45#125088 date=1049729392]<br>Although most of your engine componets are still coated with oil - Most of your bearings rely on Oil pressure as well as Shaft speed to form a &quot;OIL Wedge&quot;. What this means is the shaft (Crank, Cam or Rod) that is inside of the bearing are floating in oil. And they actually never touch metal to metal. EXCEPT when shut down and during cranking or startup.<br><br>The most critical would be your Turbo's Bearings. The turbo is often the last componet to get good Oil pressure. If it takes 2 to 10 seconds to get pressure and you have raised the engines RPM the Turbo could be spinning at or above 70,000 - 100,000 or even more especially during boost conditions.<br><br>The Turbo is already spinning pretty fast at idle.<br><br>Some say that 70 to 90+% of engine wear is at startup and during the warm up phase.<br><br>I would say for your turbo's bearings the wear rate is even higher. It is a bad idea to rev up your engine right before shutdown or startup. When you rev it up prior to shut down the oil pressure drops as soon as you turn off the key. Your Turbo charger spins for a long time before it stops. THe Bigger the turbo the longer it spins at shutdown. And during starup the trubo starts spinning often while you are still cranking.<br><br>I would say this could never be too far off topic to discuss. :-X<br><br>TexasDieselkid... Would that be FastPitch or SlowPitch?? ;D ;D <br>L8tr Kurt 8)[/quote]<br><br>Great post Kurt!!! <br><br>It would be fastpitch, trust me!!! :'( :'( :'(<br><br>Andrew

 

Most engine wear from people like us comes from High Horsepower that we are making our engines produce.<br><br>Starting up and warm up phase is probably a considerable amount of wear for a stock application truck. But marginal when you consider the power most of our trucks are producing (premature rod and main bearing wear come to mind).<br><br>--Justin

 

[quote author=BULLWAGON link=board=7;threadid=12832;start=45#124816 date=1049650192]<br>OK, great! Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me.<br><br>So Mark-why should someone choose your two charger set-up? What makes it better than others that are for sale? I mean it's still a 35/ht3, right? And how about your three charger set-up? If ya don't mind.....what chargers are you gonna run? How many stages? Can you explain how a three charger setup works? Just trying to learn something here.<br>[/quote]<br><br>They should choose it because.... I educate the consumer to the best of my ability. I tailor the turbos to their application and I tell them why I chose them. I don't act like twin turbos are a black art. They are an art, firmly planted in science.<br><br>I have faster spoolup, lower EGTs, at least as good or better reliability, and I take pride in my work. Oh, yeah, My prices are lower too<br><br>The triples are like the twins just 3 stages instead of two. using spearco intercoolers and radiators, three ceramic ball bearing turbos and a lot of creative placement of parts. cramming that much under the hood is no small feat.<br><br>BRB.. gotta do a little work

 

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So unlike the ATS tripples which had a divorced induction of the big turbo into two smaller turbos, these will be set up in line of each other?

Andrew

 

man, you're smarter than you look andrew :P :P :P<br><br>yep that's correct

 

[quote author=Mark_Kendrick link=board=7;threadid=12832;start=45#125598 date=1049830763]<br>man, you're smarter than you look andrew :P :P :P<br><br>yep that's correct<br>[/quote]<br><br>Just wanted to make sure I read it right. <br><br>How do you think I get to kick up my heels on the desk at work, and get paid for not turning the wrenches or answering phones?