on our red truck in my sig., we checked the fuel pressure and it has Zip zilch zero. so we were looking. we saw that a holley blue WILL fit on the stock bracket, we WILL be using another hose from pump to filter, but the rest of the lines will be stock. We were wondering if it is possibly to do this, or has no one tried it. we have a new one coming in tomorrow at a local parts store a stock pump but for $60 cheaper we may as well use a holley blue for only $100.

I also have another question. we installed a PDR HX-40 and an ATS manifold. it doesn't smoke. do you think once we have some fuel pressure it may smoke more? just wondering.


thanks
Cody

 

I need to know by tomorrow if this will work or not will someone please write back we need to know if we should stay with stock or put on a holley blue in its place.


Cody

 

Quite a few people have switched to the Blue when the stock pump has failed. Most move the pump back by the tank, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work in the stock location.

HTH
Max

 

Holley Blue fuel pumps SUCK. You want one ? I've got two I'll sell ya reeeeeal cheap. Summit's brand is better.

 

Ok so if you are gonna try to resolve a problem with the stock lift pump realize that its location was THE biggest problem. you got yourself a new pump, some guys like holley some guys don't blah blah blah, but really exactly why would you not install it in the pusher location? you are talking about 1-2 hours need a drill, bits wire tubing cutter fuel hose a relay and some wire, or about 10 bucks more investment than you have now....and then you dont have to try to pull fuel...you can push it. I think you may want to reconsider your location of the pump.

GREG

 

Absolutely right High Country! Diesel Boy, as far as your question about smoke it is all about balance between the air and fuel regardless of what turbo you have.

Read below;

From Ted Jannetty:

Air fuel ratio has all to do with all internal combustion engines, in the case of Diesels too rich and you have soggy performance, black smoke and High EGT
Too lean, i.e. more air than you need for proper complete combustion, Lost performance
Too much boost, or more than you need causes many Deficiencies. High back pressure, high charge air temps, high egt. etc.
Everything is a balancing act. Simple test if you have a boost and egt gauge:
Lower boost a little at a time, you will see EGT drop then rise again as you go down, find the point were you have balance for you combo.

 

does that mean,those black smokin diesels i see are running rich?why would guys want a rich running engine with soggy performance.so to get peak power from a diesel the more fuel you feed her the more air she needs to?if you add big injectors you need to get the air to match???is this corect??i dont mind a little smoke when i tromp on her but i dont want a soggy engine.is exsessive black smoke bad for anything?does it wear things out faster?how about a little smoke,is that healthy??maybe i should start a new post on smokin???

 

Black smoke is a sure sign of fuel more smoke=more fuel but other factors play into that too..... timing sure can change things, any air restrictions and you can get stock sticks to smoke like a chimney too. the only things I can think of that big fuel can hurt is maybe the IAT sensor gets sooted up....but then ya get even more fuel...oh and just about everything associated with the engine.....big fuel needs big air=more turbo, big turbo= big pressure=head gasket, passing on big turbo to save gasket = big EGT= terminal burndown. every thing has a reaction, big power= ......burnt pistons=

JUST MY 2/100
GREG

 

Holley says they do not make a pump rated for diesel.I have had two on my rig and they both did not live long.

 

I have been running a Holley Black for about a year and have not had any problems other than I can still puller down below 8psi if I want to...

 

Cumminsdieselboy:

Both my son and I (banshee) have been using the Holley Pumps for over a year now!
He is running the Holley Blue on his 2004 Dodge CTD CR and I have the Holley Red
on my 2002 Dodge CTD. I like them because you can get them at ANY "Advance Auto
Parts Store", they come with a full one (1) year replacement warranty and they are
pretty quiet when running.

You asked about whether the Holley Blue would work for you by putting it in the
place of the stock lift pump. My answer would be "Yes it should work just fine!"
The flow rate on the Holley Blue is around 110 GPH @ 14psi. The Holley Black
is a little higher than that at 140 GPH @14 psi. I would install larger banjo bolts
or drill yours out some to give you a good flow and pressure. As I recall, the stock
"Carter" Lift Pump is rated at about 70-72 GPH @ 5-7 psi. So the Holley Blue should
work good for you.

P.M. me if you need any help or you can P.M. my son who goes by "banshee" on this
site. He just posted a thread about the Holley Blue on his 2004 Dodge CTD CR over
on the 3rd Gen (Performance and Accesories) Section entitled: Holley Blue Pump.

Hope this has helped you some.

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John_P

 

I've got a holley blue on mine and I see 15 at idle and 12 at WOT with -8 line from the tank to the injection pump. As soon as I get the money (darn taxes) I'm gonna upgrade to scotty's adapters to see if those help any more.

 

Put the holley back at the tank and run it along with the lift pump. Wire it in with the LP so that it will trigger when the LP runs.

Roman

 

I believe the holley blues push fuel better than they pull. In my own opinion the blue would work better back by the tank. Ive got a few thousand miles on mine without a problem. My buddy that mounted his blue in the stock location has been through three in a few thousand miles.
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