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Old 01-20-2007 | 01:27 PM
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I agree with Boilermaker. For the price of a FA$$ I could buy a Blue and six spares. And whether I bought a Blue or a FA$$ I'd install it myself.
Old 01-20-2007 | 01:44 PM
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Good points guys, ...about running at capacity. Walbro is STILL a proven pump. Lots of guys, run them on all different applications.
Old 01-20-2007 | 04:21 PM
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I stated that the walbro is a great pump (from what I've read). It's just running at capacity. If you had a blue regulated down to 5 psi it would not last any longer. because it's still a holley blue. I think they have their place, (cheap) and some have real good luck with them, (and it might be all luck) I've not dealt with the walbro my self, what's the cost on one and all it takes to hook it up? the fass I put on the other day was like $430, it was a nice kit and an easy install
Old 01-20-2007 | 05:51 PM
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I'm using the Holley HP150.. Its an internal gear (G-rotor) pump vs the vane type pump. Internally regualated to 17psi...
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Old 01-20-2007 | 06:06 PM
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Impressive, I bet that green paint makes it expensive. how much?
Old 01-20-2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blackdiesel
I wonder what the pressure would be if you had a gauge between the pump and the regulator?
Be just a little higher than whatever the regulator is set to, depends on how much frictional loss is between the two. Regulator is closed until the pressure in the system reaches what the reg. is set to, then the valve will start to open and start bleeding pressure (and flow) off. Just like the max. pressure relief in a hydraulic system.
Old 01-20-2007 | 10:42 PM
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My Holley blue has been 100% trouble free going on three years, and 55,000 miles now.

It is, has been, and always will be my personal opinion that the FASS is a grossly overpriced, over-marketed, and over-hyped unit.

And there have been plenty of posts on here about FASS problems as well.

I think any pump will live in this application if it has a properly sized suction line, a large suction strainer, and enough resilency somewhere between it and the VP to absorb the pressure pulsations from the VP.

These pumps are pumping OIL for crying out loud, it doesnt get any easier on a pump than that. Its cavitation, and/or VP pressure pulsations that kill em.



And no, you FASS salesmen are not going to drag me into a fight on this, because I've spoken my opinion, and now I'm done on this subject.

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Old 01-20-2007 | 11:07 PM
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The HP150's are about twice the priced of the Blues.. $189-200 .. the Strainer.. was price right.. Its on the suction side of the pump.. I'm currently still using the stock filter housing for a final filter... I plan on changing soon.. (as soon as I use up my stock of cummins fuel filters.)
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Old 01-21-2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RickCJ
How many times are you going to play with that junk till you get fed up and get FASSed?
Never, I'll keep the pump that I can get almost anywhere in my truck, tyvm.
Old 01-21-2007 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Forrest Nearing
sorry, they're the McDonald's of aftermarket pums

If by "McDonald's" you mean readily available just around the corner, then I agree.
Old 01-21-2007 | 02:15 PM
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I'm in partial agreement with 600MW. For most applications the FA$$ is overkill/overpriced. But if I were wanting to do some serious power bombs on my CTD it might be worth it. But for just a replacement LP on a lightly modded truck it's just WAY too much. I mean, you can get a Walbro setup for less than half of what a FA$$ would set you back.
Old 01-29-2007 | 05:10 PM
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I've done lots of research and reading of the various threads. I do feel the FASS is a pretty good system but I decided to go with the Holley Black fuel pump.

My reasoning is, at some point, the Holley (and FASS) will go out and I find it easier to find (purchase) and replace the Holley fuel pump on the road than it would be to replace the FASS. The Holley Blue or Black fuel pumps are sold at many auto parts stores around the country. So, if I broke down in the middle of nowhere, all I have to do is get to the auto parts store. If I had a FASS and it stopped working, I would probably have to tow my vehicle home, pull the FASS and if it is still under warranty send it for a replacement.

I do not want to be down that long. So I'm installing a Holley on the frame rail and carrying another as backup/spare.

Please note that I'm not talking down on the FASS, its just that I don't want to be down for a long time waiting on my replacement FASS if it goes out.
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