CumminsRedneck

hey guys, im going to buy my first ever cummins this next week, and before the lift pump dies i want to get either the FASS or bullydog system for it, but im nt sure which one to get. i was hoping you guys could tell me which system would be the most reliable and least prone to having an effect if/when the vp44 dies.

CumminsRedneck

cmon huys...i really need to know so i can save up a chunk to get whichever one is best

blackdiesel

two different animals.

the fass is a filter/pump system. then bully dog big fuel whatever replaces your fuel lines with larger hoses. (i think)

im running my stock lift pump with a holley blue helper pump. 26 psi at idle and never under 15 at WOT

you could also relocate your factory lift pump.

do a search on holley blue and then on walbro. Then go from there

hope this helps!

CumminsRedneck

ok so, which would you recommend for a (for now) stock cummins...

blackdiesel

well i would go with the holley blue pusher pump. they are cheap and reliable.

i havent priced the relocation kit, they seem to be pretty decent.

i dont really think you need to upgrade the fuel lines, being as how i (along with several others) can push upwards of 25 psi with the stockers

I havent reserched the walbro pump, but from what ive herd, its a pretty good setup.

you could go the fass route, but thats way to expensive IMO.

Its your call, bigblue has ran the same holley blue pump for 2 or 3 years i think. but there has been a few failures, uncommon though.

you might try to see what you can find out about the walbro pump before you buy something different, hopefully someone running one will see this and tell ya about it.

Hope this helps!

CumminsRedneck

i jkust researched the walbro, and i think i will end up going with the walbro, i mjust wonderin g if i should get the w/f seperator and fuel filter kit with it or if i will only need the lift pump kit.

blackdiesel

just get the pump. the truck already has one fuel filter, shouldnt need two

CumminsRedneck

i can get the lift pump kit without the filters haha

CumminsRedneck

is walbro the best way to go?

Gotlift01

I have the bullydog kit on mine and it works very nice I must say and for half of what the FASS system was gonna cost me!!

Now the FASS is a very nice system, but for what I wanted and what i wanted to spend the Bullydog kit was a more appealing option.


~Nick

Tiger Rag

Bully Dog, BD or build your own with a Holley Blue. The FASS seems to be whole lot more money with still some reliability issues. If you want to do it for the last time, put a cam in with the 12 valve lift pump, that is what I just did so I don't have to mess with it anymore.

daniel

go with the bullydog, thats what im running its baciscally bigger fuel lines with a holley blue.

CumminsRedneck

ok so is the bullydog kit better then the walbro kit?

Tiger Rag

Hard to say, the Walbro kit is too new on our trucks. I believe that Ford has been using a Walbro system for a while, but until recently not many have been running it. Many folks have been running the Bully dog system for a while. It is basically just a Holley blue with a Bosch relay that you can make up yourself. Many have run that with no issues and it is much less expensive. The Bully Dog or home made kit are both much less expensive from what I've seen. I think the Bully Dog is about $250, the home grown kit can be done for about $125. Seems like last time I read on the Walbro it was $400 or more. Hope that helps some.

Diesel-Dan

You know...the FASS is not the only thing we make.....we do have the HPFP as well........complete kit from fnt to back.