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Old 10-28-2006 | 03:34 PM
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Talking Ultimate Engine Build up

1. What would be the ultimate engine build up for the 24v?

2. Where can you buy new or remanufactured 2nd generation engines?

3. Is their a online shop that sells all the parts that could build the ultimate 24v engine?


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Old 10-28-2006 | 04:02 PM
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http://www.jasperengine.com/ this is a respectable place to get a reman. engine.
Old 10-28-2006 | 04:38 PM
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What parts are neccessary to build a high horsepower engine 550+ hp that will be bomb proof?

Where can I find the parts?
Old 10-28-2006 | 07:45 PM
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What are you looking for street or race only. Most stock parts are modify to reach those numbers. I would stud the top and bottom for piece of mind and have the rotating assemble ballanced. Port the head add springs and cam. Injectors and turbos to match what the truck will be used for. This will get you well into the 500 hp range if everything is matched. Dont forget to cut the head or block for rings depending on what kind of boost you will be running.
Old 10-28-2006 | 07:52 PM
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I am looking for street use but I want it to be fast and reliable. I know this sounds stupid but what do you mean by studding the bottom end and top end? So you can put fire rings on the block and the head? Whats the difference betwenn O-ringing and fire rings? By springs do you mean governor springs? Is their a one stop shop online where I can buy everything?

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Old 10-28-2006 | 09:08 PM
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anyone else have more information?

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Old 10-29-2006 | 12:16 AM
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If you are going to run 500hp, why not just leave the engine alone. The stock Cummins componens will handle 500 unless you are planning to run it there non stop. It would be a good idea to oring the head and use 12mm studs.
Old 10-29-2006 | 12:30 AM
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No I probably run in a lower setting on the chip. But I was thinking using twin turbos so I didnt know if I need to really beedf up the engine internals or not.

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Old 10-29-2006 | 08:16 PM
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Some people like to cut the head for the rings and others like to cut the block. As far as springs something over stock on the valve springs if you are going to run higher rpm's or boost. If it was my motor witch it is not! I would feel better with head studs. I feel they are mandatory at that hp for reliability! And if you are doing a total rebuild new rod cap bolts, and main studs. I have not seen a main cap bolt fail! But on reassemble some of the old one had been over spec on stretch. And they had to be replaced. But i have seen rod bolts fail at very high rpm's! Every day these motor survive at very high hp number these are thing that will give piece of mind. I have seen trucks making over 500hp and still running strong with over 250,000.
Old 10-29-2006 | 08:59 PM
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What would be the ultimate complete engine buildup from top to bottom if money were no object?

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Old 10-29-2006 | 10:15 PM
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If anyone could provide a list I would greatly appreciate it.

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Old 10-29-2006 | 10:44 PM
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MY (I stress MY) Ultimate Motor

Internals: $6000
Rotating Assemby Balanced
Firerings
Studs
Helix 2 w/ mehcanical lift pump gear
Polished and Ported stage III head
F1 Valve Springs


Fuel: $3500
Mach 4...5...6
Smarty
TST Comp
HR VP44

Air: $5000
Custom Twinz with interchangable bottom for whatever Im doing, racing, dynoing, towing with maybe a BigBrother or S400 on bottom.

Other: $1000
Nitrous
Water/Meth

Transmission: $7000
Full DTT
Billet everything

Depending on what injector you choose you can tow at 450hp or dyno somewhere near 750 with the bottle. Its really neverending.

And about the endless supply of money..............ya, youll need it.

I would guess this at +/- $20,000
Old 10-29-2006 | 11:07 PM
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A 500hp motor doesnt require studding or for that matter girdling the bottom end.

I know several 600hp rigs that dont even have studs or o rings....

If you want the ultimate motor or whatever your going to have to drop the engine off at a shop that knows what they are doing....
Even then you wont be top dog.
Old 10-29-2006 | 11:35 PM
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What parts will the shop put in? I want to learn what goes into these motors.

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Old 10-30-2006 | 02:01 AM
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If you want to learn then you need to start reading....
There is tons of information at your fingertips available on this website.

One thread will not teach you everything.

Everyone and their brother is building the ultimate engine here....its just taking time!

Here are some questions for you...

1. How much money do you have to spend?
2. Do you have another vehicle to drive?
3. What are you going to do with the truck?


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