??? ??? Today, when I picked up my truck, I drove it for the 1st time ever without the Edge EZ, and the difference is amazing. Going up a hill I had very little power, but then again, when driving in traffic I found that the engine was much quieter, and very smooth and easy when leaving a traffic light. VERY pleasant in comparison. Much less smoke, too. Is it possible to rig that EZ to a switch in the cab, so's I can turn it on and off while driving ?? Doing that would let me have my cake and eat it too. :-) Thanks.........Lar.

 

I suppose you could, but I'd have to look into it. You can contact EDGE at <brett@edgeproductsinc.com>, they're helpful and generally get back to you right away.

Was wondering what pin you have the jumper on? I moved to one and get very little smoke - unless I'm hitting it hard.

 

If you contact Edge lets us know what they say. I was told it couldn't be done - would have to get a Comp. If it can be done I'd like to do it also.

Mine smokes just about the same on one as on 3.

Stan

 

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I suppose you could, but I'd have to look into it. You can contact EDGE at <brett@edgeproductsinc.com>, they're helpful and generally get back to you right away.

Was wondering what pin you have the jumper on? I moved to one and get very little smoke - unless I'm hitting it hard.
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I did email Aaron, but won't get an answer till tomorrow. They've always been real good in the past, but I thought I'd bounce this off you guys too. Sometimes people in the field come up with mods that the mfrs don't like to 'fess up to, ya know ?? :-)

I've got the exact opposite problem as you........When I leave a light, it clatters something awful; doesn't really like to get going, and lays a cloud of black smoke. No, I don't rev it and slip the clutch. Just kinda ease it into motion. (This is with my 9'10" Lance camper on board) Once I get some rpm's going, and the turbo's putting out it disappears, and at full power there's almost no smoke, and I can hold 900 post turbo on the EGT, but the truck sure hauls a- -. Today, with the module off, it was a pussycat in traffic, and I sure liked it, but like I say..........no power. I did try the jumper on the right side, but that REALLY made it smoke, and it didn't run for s- - -.

I looked at the harness tonight, and it'd be simple to modify with a 3 pole/double throw switch, but I'd like it better if you could just cut into one wire, and switch it, or open it. Lar.

 

On the EZ I have seen people who rigged up a switch in the cab to change the settings of the ez but you can't turn it off, just change the settings. You might try changing the setting. I moved mine to the middle pin where it allows full fuel at 10psi. Helps the smoke on takeoff but you will still have the timing increase (probably the additional clatter you mentioned). Though as the previous poster mentioned you might be able to tap into the harness before the box and rig up some sort of bypass switch. You would probably only need to do that on the harness that goes to the data plug and not have to worry about the map plug.

 

Lar,

Do a leakdown test on your intercooler and boots. The Edge EZ really shouldn't pound out a pile of black smoke unless you're at altitudes of 2000 and up. Generally speaking at sea level, the most aggressive setting is fairly smoke free.

Rod

 

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Lar,

Do a leakdown test on your intercooler and boots. The Edge EZ really shouldn't pound out a pile of black smoke unless you're at altitudes of 2000 and up. Generally speaking at sea level, the most aggressive setting is fairly smoke free.

Rod
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In June, before I left on my trip, I had the whole intake leak tested to 15 psi. It's tight and solid. I AM due to clean the air cleaner, but it smoked even when the cleaner was new - also in June. I have the big AFE in the Scotty II.

 

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On the EZ I have seen people who rigged up a switch in the cab to change the settings of the ez but you can't turn it off, just change the settings. You might try changing the setting. I moved mine to the middle pin where it allows full fuel at 10psi. Helps the smoke on takeoff but you will still have the timing increase (probably the additional clatter you mentioned). Though as the previous poster mentioned you might be able to tap into the harness before the box and rig up some sort of bypass switch. You would probably only need to do that on the harness that goes to the data plug and not have to worry about the map plug.
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I'm not sure which is the data plug and which is the map plug, but on the one with 3 wires, only 1 of them (the brown) goes thru the EZ, so it looks like it could be cut and run to a switch. The other, 2 wire plug...........I think it'd be safer to take both of those wires to the switch - that's why I think a 3 pole switch would be the thing to use, but it'd only need to be a single throw - on & off. We'll see - should have an answer back from Aaron today. I liked that yesterday - it pulled away from lights so smoooooth and easy...........but - I didn't like going up that hill. Lar.

 

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Push Rod,

I am not a mechanic nor the son of a mechanic. Actually I'm very mechanically disabled, retarded, suppressed, repressed...you get the idea.

What you've said is opposed to what I've been told and have experienced with my EZ. What I've been told is the same as how mine works - therefore, since I know that you know what you're talking about I have to think I have a problem somewhere.

What I was told and how mine works: (number the pairs of pins, for identification purposes, from the far left - 1, 2, 3) The "power" of the vehicle is the same from any pair but there is less smoke from #1 and the most smoke from #3. Many leave it set on #3 in order to "smoke" the ricers, PSDs and DMs. As an 'old man' I'm not that interested in the smoke but it is kinda fun when someone wants to get smart with you. When I received mine it was set on #3 and I left it there until I went to Calif. Knowing the CHP there are very touchy about smoke (and every thing else) I moved the jumper to #1 and have left it there.

Where I live I'm just under 3,000 ft. elev. Though I don't get as much smoke from #1 as from #3, I still get a lot of smoke when taking off or going into passing gear. When pulling my TT I would like to have much less smoke than what I have even on #1. (it gets on the side of the TT) Even on the coast - sea level - I could see no difference in the amount of smoke spewing from the truck on take off. I just got back from the Oregon coast and it was the same over there. I don't need to move the jumper to #3 as I get plenty of smoke on #1. I do have the boost elbow in and can get 30 psi boost.

All the intercooler boots and the intake manifold are tight.

Can you clarify for me ( and probably many others) just what the EZ does, what each of the three pairs are for and if taking it off will give me more mileage when running high speed (80+) for many miles not pulling the TT. I'm told that smoke = unburned fuel = less mileage. I bought the EZ for the extra power and I love it for that - money well spent.

I'd just like a little more info on what I have and what it does, when you get the time.

Thanks Rod. It's appreciated.

Stan

 

I love my EZ, but would like to be able to dis-able it as well. I think my mileage would improve a little. I don't think it would be too difficult to bypass it with a switch as stated earlier, but don't think that would be a good idea if the boost elbow is being used. I think it would set an error code for too much boost presure.

 

has anyone else followed up on the on/off of the EZ?

 

I have an auto, and run the EZ (if I had one) at #2. It doesn't add extra fuel until 10# of boost. I found that I get better mileage at this setting because I cruise at under 10 # of boost as a daily driver. #1 allows extra fueling at 20# of boost and #3 allows extra fueling all the time. I do like #3, however.

I drove Biglars truck 2 yrs ago and it did smoke a fair bit, but being a manual, it will smoke more because of the drop in boost every time you shift. An auto will only smoke at take off for the most part.

Larry- maybe you should sell your EZ and buy a Comp. Then you can adjust it from within the cab. I don't think you will have a hard time selling it.

Mike

 

Good to hear from ya, Mike. How's Washington treating you ?? My L.A. friends moved up to Colville last month, and love it. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, I published the description and pictures of the relay and switch I installed to turn the EZ on and off. It works great, but hafta watch the boost gauge real close in 4th gear and up. I already have 1 overboost code set. I'm not sure how to find that description now.............can anyone tell us where to find it ?? Thanks... Lar.

 

The EZ makes two connections to the engine, one via the MAP sensor and the other via the Data Link. If you run the EZ with the MAP plugged in and the Data Link unplugged, it will act as a boost fooler without adding timing/fuel (ask Hohn, he's been running his EZ as just a fooler since he installed his DD2s). If you rigged the switch to bypass only the Data Link connection and not the MAP sensor, you could still get into it in 4th and 5th without setting an overboost code. The easiest way that I have seen to do this was just a toggle switch under the dash.

Bearfoot2, I used to run an EZ and Bosch 300s. Even at 4000'+ it didn't smoke unless I wanted it to. Part of that is because I don't shift until ~1900 rpms, 2000+ for 4 and up (6 speed), but one thing that did help was installation of a turbomaster. The truck spools up much faster with the turbomaster vs boost elbow. Might be worth a shot, they're fairly inexpensive.

By the way, the jumpers don't add fuel based on boost alone. It calculates boost/rpm/etc., then decides when to add fuel based on jumper setting. It will add full fuel on less than 20 lbs boost even on #1.

 

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Good to hear from ya, Mike. How's Washington treating you ?? My L.A. friends moved up to Colville last month, and love it. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, I published the description and pictures of the relay and switch I installed to turn the EZ on and off. It works great, but hafta watch the boost gauge real close in 4th gear and up. I already have 1 overboost code set. I'm not sure how to find that description now.............can anyone tell us where to find it ?? Thanks... Lar.
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Been doing well, thanks. I checked my codes and have :
PCM 0500
Ecm 1693

What are they?
Mike