jr22

Hello, I have a buddy out west with a 01 ram auto trans hrvp 150 hp injectors edge comp and a silver bulliet turbo from industrial injection he emailed me a dyno sheet 543hp and 1102 tq with snow stage 3 659 hp 1385 tq these both sounded real high to me how much of a differance can a mustang dyno very ?? I have heard reports of 25 hp change on a truck everything same but only the dyno being differant ?? could it be just me thanks, jr

mysterync

Im not seeing that much diffrence with water meth, I have the stage two, only diffrence being the controller, sprays the same amount! It dose seem a little high on the water. And yes the mustang can make that much diffrence, See my dyno video and youll see that with 220 hp sticks i made 595 and with water i made 619

jr22

I guess his numbers could be good then,

mysterync

the water seems high, but it could be due to a little smaller stick!

Dazed&Confused

Is he running a small charger on it? That could be why there is such a difference with the water if he is overfueling it a ton.

Ph4tty

543 isn't unreasonable- mine did 492 uncorrected on a dynojet with 150 hp injectors and a hrvp, but mine also had a smaller turbo, a stock air box, and no fueling box =/ The 659 might sound right if for nitrous, but not water/meth

Ph4tty

The Silver bullet is normally a 66, so he had plenty of air

Dazed&Confused

I did not read carefully enough.

2141pete

He has a bigger charger than me but my numbers from saturday are in my sig. 507 with juice on 5x5 and 472 with edge off. I have a snow stage three but the controller fried on friday so I cant say about the water meth #'s

Big Blue24

So 2141pete, your Juice only added like 35 ponies with your other mods??? Do you have a smarty program running in disguise. I can't imagine such a small difference. Maybe a SOVP44 will net bigger numbers, it can push more fuel cause it has a bigger diaphram/plunger thingy.

AlpineRAM

If it's a juice with attitude and the defuel is set for some EGT the water-meth can make a big difference because the box won't defuel as early in the hp curve.
This might be the reason for some of the results with extreme differences between dry and water/meth dynos. It would also be very interesting to see whether he achieved full boost on the dry run. (Could be that ther just wasn't enough time to really spool the turbo then)

Just my 2c

AlpineRAM

2141pete

Big blue it is definetley the pump holding me back now. A buddy brought a smarty for me to try but I never ended up using it.

RowJ

The 543/1102 sound doable but gaining over 110 HP with H2O/Meth sounds unreasonable. Snow's claims they have gained around 100 hp on a 3rd gen, but 2nd gens usually only see 50-60 hp max.

Mustang Dynos can be set up to work like a Dynojet but usually read high. I did over 600 hp on a Mustang... lost 10% of that on a Dynojet.

RJ

Duallydog

Different truck run differently, they can fluke either badly (lemon) or really good (great engine stock). Some may take different mods better than others. My dad's truck felt like it gained low end power by taking the silencer ring out, mine did not feel any different. Even taking 2 identical trucks side by side can vary, one can get better mileage and the other have more towing power.

mysterync

very true! but i doubt you'll see that much increase from a water meth kit. Not saying its not possible but not from what ive seen, I dont think taking the silencer ring out is going to help much of anything, In fact i think its shown that it hurts low end power, It was really a silencer ring from the research ive done, it was designed to smooth air flow into the turbo, Which would make things quiter but it wasnt put there for that reason!