Drawstraw V ???
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This is the reason we set this system up this way. I am trying to get a few more Liberty modules for comparison. I have found no less than 6 variations so far.
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Dave, if i gave u a call tomorrow morning could u explain this to me a little better?
is there something that u guys sell that i can use then? this 1/4 $hit is for the birds.
they tryed putting a liberty canister in my truck when i got the fass installed but they told me it wouldn't fit..? i would be able to use this, no filler neck return, just 1 return into the canister and 1 out for suction. thats it! right? or should i find a canister off a 2003 2004 with out the intake pump and just use that canister?
is there something that u guys sell that i can use then? this 1/4 $hit is for the birds.
they tryed putting a liberty canister in my truck when i got the fass installed but they told me it wouldn't fit..? i would be able to use this, no filler neck return, just 1 return into the canister and 1 out for suction. thats it! right? or should i find a canister off a 2003 2004 with out the intake pump and just use that canister?
Similar, but no. We do not use filler neck returns as they do not put fuel back in the canister. This is fine for a stock truck with a stock type pump. Heavily fueled trucks will drain the bucket though.
This is the reason we set this system up this way. I am trying to get a few more Liberty modules for comparison. I have found no less than 6 variations so far.
Dave
This is the reason we set this system up this way. I am trying to get a few more Liberty modules for comparison. I have found no less than 6 variations so far.
Dave
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Dave, if i gave u a call tomorrow morning could u explain this to me a little better?
is there something that u guys sell that i can use then? this 1/4 $hit is for the birds.
they tryed putting a liberty canister in my truck when i got the fass installed but they told me it wouldn't fit..? i would be able to use this, no filler neck return, just 1 return into the canister and 1 out for suction. thats it! right? or should i find a canister off a 2003 2004 with out the intake pump and just use that canister?
is there something that u guys sell that i can use then? this 1/4 $hit is for the birds.
they tryed putting a liberty canister in my truck when i got the fass installed but they told me it wouldn't fit..? i would be able to use this, no filler neck return, just 1 return into the canister and 1 out for suction. thats it! right? or should i find a canister off a 2003 2004 with out the intake pump and just use that canister?
The 1/4 tank issue is largely over rated and I have yet to see one that I could not remedy. In other words, they have all been installation related. The purpose of the DSV is to make the connection easier and therefore foolproof with regards to the installation.
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If you are OK with a 3/8" draw tube, the DrawStraw V will work perfect.
If you must have a 1/2" Draw Straw then either the DSV HiFlow or the DSV Upgrade will work. Give us a call and we can explain all the options.
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A few pics
Here's a couple of pictures to help illustrate what's going on with the module.
First, we have the DSV installed in the module in place of the factory pump. This does NOT require breaking of the module or parts just in case the owner would ever want to swap back. Please note, the green line was used for photo contrast and would not be used with the shipped product. The hose we ship is clear and is bio and veg oil compatible. The green line is not.
The second images is with an old prototype module that we used to mockup the DSV Hiflow kit. As you can see, everything mounts in the module. The DSV in the base is the same design as the first picture. However, it is 1/2" internally.
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First, we have the DSV installed in the module in place of the factory pump. This does NOT require breaking of the module or parts just in case the owner would ever want to swap back. Please note, the green line was used for photo contrast and would not be used with the shipped product. The hose we ship is clear and is bio and veg oil compatible. The green line is not.
The second images is with an old prototype module that we used to mockup the DSV Hiflow kit. As you can see, everything mounts in the module. The DSV in the base is the same design as the first picture. However, it is 1/2" internally.
Dave
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I realize this is an old post but this picture and the green tube is confusing me.
I’m going to install a raptor 100 and DSV to replace my in tank pump this weekend.
Two of the photos I received with the instructions that would show the installation of the long flex tube inside the fuel module are ineligible to say the least.
To my understanding of the installation instructions the long flex hose included with the DSV goes from the bottom of the fitting drilled and inserted into the top of the module straight down to the top of the DSV suction tube fitting that is inserted into the location the factory pump used to occupy.
Is that correct?
This green tube connection that is shown in this photo should not be done, and in fact the existing hose connection that occupies the location of this green tube that goes from the plastic fitting down to the factory pump should be cut off.
Is that correct?
The instructions also say it is an option to cut 2 or 3 ¼” holes in the bottom of the module.
Do you guys actually recommend doing that?
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Norton
I’m going to install a raptor 100 and DSV to replace my in tank pump this weekend.
Two of the photos I received with the instructions that would show the installation of the long flex tube inside the fuel module are ineligible to say the least.
To my understanding of the installation instructions the long flex hose included with the DSV goes from the bottom of the fitting drilled and inserted into the top of the module straight down to the top of the DSV suction tube fitting that is inserted into the location the factory pump used to occupy.
Is that correct?
This green tube connection that is shown in this photo should not be done, and in fact the existing hose connection that occupies the location of this green tube that goes from the plastic fitting down to the factory pump should be cut off.
Is that correct?
The instructions also say it is an option to cut 2 or 3 ¼” holes in the bottom of the module.
Do you guys actually recommend doing that?
Cheers
Norton
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I have the DSV and Raptor 150. The DSV install is pretty easy, you just need to drop the tank. In my case the carrier bearing had to be moved as well. I went with 1/2" lines all the way to the VP. I get about 19psi at the VP and it never drops below 15 or so with this set-up. I did my entire install in a day, in the driveway, in the rain
Tom
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Just posted this in another thread, but this one is newer, so here it is again.
I recently installed the DS V in my truck and there were only two issues I encountered:
1) The factory lift pump was a Edit to get out of the bracket. (The directions said something about using the supplied "wires" to hold back the metal supports that hold the pump in place, however the "wires" were not in the kit.)
I managed to get it out using several thin screw drivers and a pair of pliers. I also removed the level sender and spring loaded upper section to make access easier.
2) The crappy spring clamps they give you for the flexible white/clear hose (that goes from the new aluminum fitting in the top to the aluminum fitting that replaces the pump) are junk. I had to remove the bed again and replace them with real hose clamps to keep from sucking air into the system.
Other then those two issues the setup was pretty slick and the quality was good.
The only other disappointment was the Raptor 100 kit came with all new 1/2" hoses/fittings, except the quick connect fitting at the fuel tank pick up is a 3/8" fitting. The DS V has both 3/8" and 1/2" fittings for this location, but it would have been nice to run full 1/2" all the way from the tank to the high pressure pump, (I already did the factory filter to high pressure pump line/fitting before this install).
On a positive side note the factory rubber plug for the vent that gets cut off fit the 3/8" factory fuel supply fitting and worked perfectly to plug it (since it isn't used anymore).
I recently installed the DS V in my truck and there were only two issues I encountered:
1) The factory lift pump was a Edit to get out of the bracket. (The directions said something about using the supplied "wires" to hold back the metal supports that hold the pump in place, however the "wires" were not in the kit.)
I managed to get it out using several thin screw drivers and a pair of pliers. I also removed the level sender and spring loaded upper section to make access easier.
2) The crappy spring clamps they give you for the flexible white/clear hose (that goes from the new aluminum fitting in the top to the aluminum fitting that replaces the pump) are junk. I had to remove the bed again and replace them with real hose clamps to keep from sucking air into the system.
Other then those two issues the setup was pretty slick and the quality was good.
The only other disappointment was the Raptor 100 kit came with all new 1/2" hoses/fittings, except the quick connect fitting at the fuel tank pick up is a 3/8" fitting. The DS V has both 3/8" and 1/2" fittings for this location, but it would have been nice to run full 1/2" all the way from the tank to the high pressure pump, (I already did the factory filter to high pressure pump line/fitting before this install).
On a positive side note the factory rubber plug for the vent that gets cut off fit the 3/8" factory fuel supply fitting and worked perfectly to plug it (since it isn't used anymore).
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