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Old 09-22-2005 | 01:25 PM
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Blue chip pump cover

Well when I got my Comp box that I bought used it came with a Blue chip pump cover. I didnt get to put it on at the time because I couldnt get the screws that hold the stock cover off. How can I get them off? When I put the Comp box on about a month ago I tapped the wire just like the directions said. Now that I'm going to be using the new pump cover, should I cover the spliced wire up with something? I just dont want moisture to mess anything up.

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Old 09-22-2005 | 02:11 PM
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If you've already tapped the wire, the pump cover won't accomplish anything.

It was invented as a way to hide the wire pierce from peering Dodge eyes.

Stick with the stock cover, it probably dissipates the heat better than the plastic Blue Chip one.


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Old 09-22-2005 | 02:19 PM
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Yeah I know there is no power gain, but I've read where if you piecre the wire that sometimes it wont get the signal and will not fuel like it is supposed too. I just want to make sure I'm getting a good connection at ALL times. Some times I feel as if my truck is not makeing the power that it usually has with the box on. I just want to make sure its not the wire that is causeing that.
Old 09-22-2005 | 02:54 PM
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According to Industrial Injection, using the cover also doesn't hide the fact that a fueling box has been added. The Bosch software can when a box has been used.
Old 09-22-2005 | 04:11 PM
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According to Industrial Injection, using the cover also doesn't hide the fact that a fueling box has been added. The Bosch software can when a box has been used.
I've heard the same thing. The trucks computer supposedly holds a memory of anything that it's been doing outside of stock paramaters.
SuperDave, I have the BD Stealth Cover (same thing as the Blue Chip cover) and while I agree that it does provide the best connection, you still won't be able to hide your pierced wire to a tech that knows what he's looking for. Also, the pin that screws through the cover will make a pinhole in the sealant above the electronics of the pump which can be seen with the cover removed. I've heard that you could conceal it with some black rtv though
My cover came with an "S" or security torx bit for the bolts. If you took a regular torx bit and drilled a small hole in the business end of it you'll get the bolts out. Or you can probably buy one too.
Mine has been "tapped" for over 20k miles now...no problems. Only 64k +change on the truck.
Old 09-23-2005 | 01:14 AM
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Excuse the ignorance but what is the blue Chip Cover?
Old 09-23-2005 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SjLingenfelter
Excuse the ignorance but what is the blue Chip Cover?
http://www.bluechipdiesel.com/specials.html

Directly from the Bluechip Diesel website:

" Blue Chip VP44 Injection Pump Cover
This can be used with our APB and FMS products (and on a lot of our competitor's products) to hide the connection on the injection pump. This allows you to lie to the service manager about whether or not you have had a performance device on your truck."
Old 09-23-2005 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SjLingenfelter
Excuse the ignorance but what is the blue Chip Cover?
There's a pic of my pump cover in my gallery.

Dr. I'm suprised Blue Chip describes their cover the way that they do
Old 09-23-2005 | 10:28 AM
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The torx screws that hold the pump cover on are called tamperproof torx. The bit for the cover is a T20 or T25, I can't recal exactly.

If you're concerned about the quality of your connection to the solenoid wire why don't you just solder it? It is a little tight, but very, very possible and in my view the only way to go. Forget the scotchlocks and other wire connectors. Solder it, tape it up really well and you'll never have to think twice about it. Save the pump cover for your next VP$$.

Oh, as far as I know the DRB scan tool cannot provide any insight to whether or not a performance box has been installed and most DC techs do not take the pump cover off according to the diesel tech at my local dealership (we swap tools quite often). Now as for Bosch learning of it once it makes it in for reman I would suspect there is a good possibility they'll find it, but by the time they actually figure that out you will have been down the road with a warranted VP$$ for a month or maybe even longer!

Legally, is it right? Certainly not. Ethically? I'm not sure. Everyone has to make their own decision on that one.
Old 09-23-2005 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Moose10
There's a pic of my pump cover in my gallery.

Dr. I'm suprised Blue Chip describes their cover the way that they do

Moose, I was shocked by that one also at first, but Chip is straight forward about it. If I were in his shoes I would probably do the same thing and tell it like it is. No use in trying to sugar coat the obvious. What other use could that cover have than to hide the evidence of a wire tap?
Old 09-23-2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperDave4x4
Yeah I know there is no power gain, but I've read where if you piecre the wire that sometimes it wont get the signal and will not fuel like it is supposed too. I just want to make sure I'm getting a good connection at ALL times. Some times I feel as if my truck is not makeing the power that it usually has with the box on. I just want to make sure its not the wire that is causeing that.
Just solder and shrinkwrap that puppy, then there'll be no chance of a bad connection.


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Old 09-23-2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by smokindog
Moose, I was shocked by that one also at first, but Chip is straight forward about it. If I were in his shoes I would probably do the same thing and tell it like it is. No use in trying to sugar coat the obvious. What other use could that cover have than to hide the evidence of a wire tap?
A good connection ...lol...Yup no point in saying it's good for anything else.

Yeah, SuperDave, soldering that puppy would give you a good contact!
Old 09-23-2005 | 06:52 PM
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When I installed the new pump and wanted to put the cover on it, even brand new that stock pump cover had two bolts that weren't coming out. I had to take the pump in to a machine shop to have them removed. The only place I could find to get the tamper proof torx needed was from Blue Chip. All the local auto shops had the wrong design and wouldn't work. They had the wrong number of points in there pattern.
Old 09-24-2005 | 12:29 PM
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Thanks for the replys guys. I'm not worried about the *********** seeing it as I have 128k on the ticker. I think I may just solder it, that does seem like the best way to go as far as connection wise.

As for the comp box I love it. I've had the wire tapped for about a month now and I grin every time I drive it.
Old 09-24-2005 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 99 cummins
The only place I could find to get the tamper proof torx needed was from Blue Chip. All the local auto shops had the wrong design and wouldn't work. They had the wrong number of points in there pattern.

I purchased a Ridge Tool ratcheting screwdriver kit from one of the big box stores and and it had tamperproof torx bits in it. In fact the one that Chip sent along with the pump cover was actually too large.
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