Banks Performance
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Banks Performance
I have just purchased a banks powerpak for my 2000 Ram 2500. It seems to perform better than stock but while pulling my 24 ft enclosed trailer up the grapevine in California it does not perform as well as I thought it should. The maxium boost was 22.With the camper the truck is pulling app. 10,000 pounds. I am hoping that someone out there can tell me that perhaps there is something I can check and in fact this kit is all that the advertising promised. I am new and this is my first posting.
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I took my Banks controler and chucked it in the trash I now have a much more responsive and better puller with 38 psi boost and I can co over the grapevine with a 23K gvw at 60mph and the cruise control set banks electronic dont deliver.MY .02
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Banks sucks...worst on the market. I'd get rid of it ASAP. The only way to get more power out of it is to get rid of it and start over. Do your RESEARCH and don't belive BANKS....
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Banks makes good stuff, but they keep everything on the conservative side(power wise), and they charge a lot for it. What you need to look into is something like the smarty downloader. How many HP is you banks kit rated, and what all did it come with(a link may be helpful)? The Smarty should be able to stack with whatever the box you have from banks is, and I would think should wake it up quite a bit.
Eric
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I have yet to hear any "raving" reviews of a banks product. Not that they can't or don't make quality stuff, there just seems to be so much more to choose from
OTHER than Banks for the Cummins.
OTHER than Banks for the Cummins.
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Welcome to the site!
FWIW
I originally bought the Powerpack system that included the ottomind electronic controller (note this taps the wire to the VP44), gauges, 4" exhaust, quick turbo turbine housing and wastegate actuator etc.
With the above items and stock injectors I could hit 30psi.
Then without adjusting the wastegate I added RV275s and could hit 32+.
Now (TST, Smarty & EDM 2's) it hits almost 40psi still without adjusting the wastegate.
The only Banks Equipment I still have is the quick turbo housing and the 4" exhaust.
I am not sure what my wastegate was set at when it came from Banks but it had to be much more than 22psi.
Note: I believe the Ottomind adds timing you would want to be sure of this before stacking boxes.
Good luck,
George
FWIW
I originally bought the Powerpack system that included the ottomind electronic controller (note this taps the wire to the VP44), gauges, 4" exhaust, quick turbo turbine housing and wastegate actuator etc.
With the above items and stock injectors I could hit 30psi.
Then without adjusting the wastegate I added RV275s and could hit 32+.
Now (TST, Smarty & EDM 2's) it hits almost 40psi still without adjusting the wastegate.
The only Banks Equipment I still have is the quick turbo housing and the 4" exhaust.
I am not sure what my wastegate was set at when it came from Banks but it had to be much more than 22psi.
Note: I believe the Ottomind adds timing you would want to be sure of this before stacking boxes.
Good luck,
George
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Well I have dyno data to prove my dislike for Banks. With 115 hp sticks, Banks Power Pack, and a upgraded to level-5 ottomind, I dyno'ed a measly 332/782
All I have left are the intake manifold and some of the 4" exhaust.
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I've got some banks... I don't like their boxes because there is too much tapping and splicing going on (as apposed to oem plugs or prom flash). I don't perceive them to be reliable for this reason, especially when they have you tap the IP wire. I've got an ottomind box with a new wire kit in my garage, but it will be e-bay bound soon.
I think the best product they offer is the banks brake. I like how it can accomodate the 4" exhaust. The only issue being the "BigHead" which is space consuming and a "BigEyeSore". If not used regularly the thing will bind up, but I think this is with most exhaust brakes.
Reliability is #1 for me, with drivability being a close second. I cant afford to break any land speed records "ala sidewinder"... Maybe when I retire
I think the best product they offer is the banks brake. I like how it can accomodate the 4" exhaust. The only issue being the "BigHead" which is space consuming and a "BigEyeSore". If not used regularly the thing will bind up, but I think this is with most exhaust brakes.
Reliability is #1 for me, with drivability being a close second. I cant afford to break any land speed records "ala sidewinder"... Maybe when I retire
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I think the best product they offer is the banks brake. I like how it can accomodate the 4" exhaust. The only issue being the "BigHead" which is space consuming and a "BigEyeSore". If not used regularly the thing will bind up, but I think this is with most exhaust brakes.
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Originally Posted by coalburner400
I've got some banks... I don't like their boxes because there is too much tapping and splicing going on (as apposed to oem plugs or prom flash). I don't perceive them to be reliable for this reason, especially when they have you tap the IP wire. I've got an ottomind box with a new wire kit in my garage, but it will be e-bay bound soon.
I think the best product they offer is the banks brake. I like how it can accomodate the 4" exhaust. The only issue being the "BigHead" which is space consuming and a "BigEyeSore". If not used regularly the thing will bind up, but I think this is with most exhaust brakes.
Reliability is #1 for me, with drivability being a close second. I cant afford to break any land speed records "ala sidewinder"... Maybe when I retire![Laughing](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/laughing.gif)
I think the best product they offer is the banks brake. I like how it can accomodate the 4" exhaust. The only issue being the "BigHead" which is space consuming and a "BigEyeSore". If not used regularly the thing will bind up, but I think this is with most exhaust brakes.
Reliability is #1 for me, with drivability being a close second. I cant afford to break any land speed records "ala sidewinder"... Maybe when I retire
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Banks sucks. I wished that there was more product availibility when I made my purchase. Like CTD_Neil said, unless you wnat to get a new exhaust brake, you are very limited on turbo upgrades. I do like the 4" stainless exhaust though. I also agree with statements in other threads about Gale's holier than thou attitude.
I know it has been said many, many times that you can do way better for less money if you shop and compare.
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After reading this post i find myself questioning if I have stock injectors. My truck was equipped with the banks powerpack when i purchased it. During a trip to fla. I pulled a 24ft enclosed trailer and saw 38psi of boost any time i gave it just a little extra fuel. Even unloaded i can pull 34-35psi if im on it. Do you think my injectors have been changed also? I take it there is no way of telling with out removing them. My boost numbers seem significantly higher than those who have the same system.
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Originally Posted by WhoCares79
After reading this post i find myself questioning if I have stock injectors. My truck was equipped with the banks powerpack when i purchased it. During a trip to fla. I pulled a 24ft enclosed trailer and saw 38psi of boost any time i gave it just a little extra fuel. Even unloaded i can pull 34-35psi if im on it. Do you think my injectors have been changed also? I take it there is no way of telling with out removing them. My boost numbers seem significantly higher than those who have the same system. ![Crazy!](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
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I have just purchased a banks powerpak for my 2000 Ram 2500.
I am new and this is my first posting.![Yuk](https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/yuk.gif)
I am new and this is my first posting.
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i read and have never bought anything from banks except the High Ram air intake, used...cheap... only for the looks. so i dont know anything about banks, but that most people dont like BANK$
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Originally Posted by cumminsdriver635
Banks makes good stuff, but they keep everything on the conservative side(power wise), and they charge a lot for it. What you need to look into is something like the smarty downloader. How many HP is you banks kit rated, and what all did it come with(a link may be helpful)? The Smarty should be able to stack with whatever the box you have from banks is, and I would think should wake it up quite a bit.
Eric
Eric
Eric hit this one right on the head
i HAD full on banks power pack, while it sounds cool, it aint all its cracked up to be, Ive switched out some parts on the cheap end and made MUCH MORE power than with banks stuff, i believe i was at 290 at the wheels or so, right now on a severly fuel limited truck due to clutch and turbo i dyno at 330 rwhp WITHOUT banks parts....
Go elsewhere for power for ur ram, the smarty, edge, and bullydog seem to be the most popular choices for ur ram...
Rick