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Old 04-05-2007 | 12:18 PM
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I would get your timing set up correctly first by using the dial indicator/plunger lift method this is the most accurate method. This will make it easyer to work out your other issues and could help save you from blowing a headgasket,burnt piston, etc. When setting the timing/plunger lift for your pump you use the cpl number to get the correct lift amount all engine/pumps are not the same. Their is a chart that will give you this info on the piers web site.I have mine set up at 17 and it works well for me anything in the 15-17 range seems to work well for most people.
Old 04-05-2007 | 02:27 PM
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that wasnt the diesel shop right next to richardson dodge, was it
Old 04-05-2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rattlerbob5.9
I would get your timing set up correctly first by using the dial indicator/plunger lift method this is the most accurate method. This will make it easyer to work out your other issues and could help save you from blowing a headgasket,burnt piston, etc. When setting the timing/plunger lift for your pump you use the cpl number to get the correct lift amount all engine/pumps are not the same. Their is a chart that will give you this info on the piers web site.I have mine set up at 17 and it works well for me anything in the 15-17 range seems to work well for most people.
The reason I didn't say anything about the plunger lift method is that he does not know if it has the stock pump or not.... He will have to find out what pump he has first. The timing by dampner is not quite as accurate but so long as you are not splitting hairs it's fine. 1mm = 1.974* So 2* per mm is close enough and easily enough measured.
Old 04-05-2007 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ckt_santiago
The reason I didn't say anything about the plunger lift method is that he does not know if it has the stock pump or not.... He will have to find out what pump he has first. The timing by dampner is not quite as accurate but so long as you are not splitting hairs it's fine. 1mm = 1.974* So 2* per mm is close enough and easily enough measured.
Yes the timing set by using the dampener will work if you know what you are doing i just get the feeling that the shop he took it to did not know what they were doing and as a result who knows where it is at now.

It is always better for a guy to know how to set it up correctly so that if it does not work out when playing around with other methods he can still get himself back to a standard base line.
Old 04-05-2007 | 04:23 PM
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the timing was way retarded and yes it will smoke like a freight train and the fuel will spin the turbo real fast with killer heat. you got hosed, sorry man.
Old 04-05-2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ckt_santiago
The reason I didn't say anything about the plunger lift method is that he does not know if it has the stock pump or not.... He will have to find out what pump he has first. The timing by dampner is not quite as accurate but so long as you are not splitting hairs it's fine. 1mm = 1.974* So 2* per mm is close enough and easily enough measured.
How small is your dampner? 58mm in diameter? A fluidamper is 9.75" in diamter, or 30.615", 777.621. That would be just a little more than 2mm per degree of crank rotation. I know the stockers are gonna be around the same size as the fluidamper.
Old 04-05-2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by iforge03
that wasnt the diesel shop right next to richardson dodge, was it


yep thats the diesel place, they were real nice, but after i got my truck back from them working on it they said it was real peppy and had crisp throttle response , it was horrible, it had no throttle response, barley ran, smoked excessively and was unsafe to drive, i smoked out every vehicle that came close to me and the coolants temps would never cool down, it kept boiling over. im afraid to look at the pistons, i bet every cylinder is scored now and i probably have a layer of unburt diesel an inch thick on the pistons
, and i won't be taking anything back there, for fear the will break something. thanks guys for youre help and support.

jason
Old 04-05-2007 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gunracer1
the timing was way retarded and yes it will smoke like a freight train and the fuel will spin the turbo real fast with killer heat. you got hosed, sorry man.
THATS WHAT I SAID. it seriously sounded like it was retarded and not advanced, i've timed enough vehicles to know how they sound and it sounded like it was retarded, but diesels are different so i can't be sure.


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Old 04-05-2007 | 08:01 PM
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those guys sound like a bunch of clowns.
Old 04-05-2007 | 11:49 PM
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I agree - makes you wonder if they should help you with a new turbo...
Like I said, they screwed up!
Old 04-06-2007 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by wreedCTD
those guys sound like a bunch of clowns.
thats putting it lightly!

jason
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