LanceD

heck yeah they do, shiny! also does the starter mount in the same spot? does it use the same starter?

Gabe32

yeah everything is powdercoated or ceramic coated. the starter is different as well as the starter mounting.

LanceD

where does it mount?

Gabe32

passenger side

Gabe32

That is the stand alone TCM

This is a pic of my truck

Racing_Joe66

nice looking ride gabe. it almost looks like mine. except i have the S/S chrome trim on the bottom.

just sent ya a pm also.

joe

FDPOWER

Well I have sat here long enough a read to many false hoods about the allisons. So this is my 2 cent. im an alllison technician so here it is. An allison is proably the best trans on the market today. Allisons are in ever thing, buses,motor homes, trucks,tanks , fire engine ,etc. A built allison is beter than any ford or dodge trans. Now on to the next half. To get the 6th gear its all in the programing. Since you are not using the 1939 comunications with the tcm you have all u need in engine speed, turbine speed an trans output speed . Also power to the tcm an she will work. it wont throw an codes the will stop the trans from shifting. an since your not using the 1939 communication you will never see the check engine lite.

Racing_Joe66

to do the swap. the 1000 allison in the dodge 12v.
does the flexplate have to be changed???
also the torque convertor??

or how does that go??

thanks

Gabe32

absolutely everything is changed. There is not a dodge part left from the flywheel housing back.

Racing_Joe66

what flexplate is used?? also who do u tell the difference between a SAE 3 or SAE 2 adapter?? and what does the SAE 2 or 3 stand for anyway??

gabe u get my pm??

Racing_Joe66

so will any TCM from 01 up work for programming the 6th gear or just 04 and up or the 05 and up?? did u find out??

later

LanceD

I have a question about the transfer case used. I know you can use a NV261 (manual) or NV263 (electric shift). are these transfer cases full time 4x? what I mean is when its in 2, does the front driveshaft spin all the time? also how much stronger is this case compared to the 241 dodge?
also is there a PTO on the 261?

signature600

I don't think the front driveshaft will turn unless the axle doesn't have CAD...they are tougher than the 241's but not as tough as the 271's in the 03-up Dodges!

Chris

LanceD

would you be able to put a 271 behind the allison instead?
the max torque rating from NVG states:

NV241 and NV241HD- 5555lbft
NV261 -2564lbft
NV261HD -5430lbft
NV261SHD -5677lbft
NV271 -7890lbft

Gabe32

the difference in the adapters is size. flexplate is cummins and is solid. As far as TCMs go, I am not sure yet. I will get back to you tomorrow. I don't think I got your pm but I will check. The 261,263 has all the same gear selections as the dodge so no the driveshaft doesn't turn in two high. You cannot put a 271 behind a an allison because it has to have an output speed sensor on the tcase and the 271 doesn't have that. The 261 and 263 don't have provisioning for a pto, only the tranny itself does.