Adrenaline Surge Updates
10-30-2008, 02:58 PM
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Its not just that easy. Look at it from our point of view.
1.) We cannot put it in the middle of the cable somewhere. Different people mount these things in different places and don't want a connector sticking out somewhere to be an eyesore.
2.) Putting a connector on the back of the unit make it larger and therefore make mounting it tougher. Right now you can use the mount it comes with, a Pillar mount or you can pretty much mount it to any flat surface you want including cell phone mounts.
Now, I don't know what you guys are doing but, I can pull our Pulse out in less than 3 minutes?
I think once you download v1.3.2 I don't see any reasons we will need to update them going forward. UNLESS. We finally get all the transmission slippage algorithm figured out 100%. Then, you only need to update it if you want that parameter.
It is still tons and tons better than sending stuff back to get it updated, even if the update is free.
Sometimes I wonder if people are going to non-stop nit pick stuff until the end?
1.) We cannot put it in the middle of the cable somewhere. Different people mount these things in different places and don't want a connector sticking out somewhere to be an eyesore.
2.) Putting a connector on the back of the unit make it larger and therefore make mounting it tougher. Right now you can use the mount it comes with, a Pillar mount or you can pretty much mount it to any flat surface you want including cell phone mounts.
Now, I don't know what you guys are doing but, I can pull our Pulse out in less than 3 minutes?
I think once you download v1.3.2 I don't see any reasons we will need to update them going forward. UNLESS. We finally get all the transmission slippage algorithm figured out 100%. Then, you only need to update it if you want that parameter.
It is still tons and tons better than sending stuff back to get it updated, even if the update is free.
Sometimes I wonder if people are going to non-stop nit pick stuff until the end?
10-30-2008, 03:14 PM
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I wasnt dissin (or nit pickin) on you guys, just thinking ahead. It would just be handy to be able to remove it easily for updates (since it is updateable).
Many minds come up with good ideas. Take it as an insult if you want, but I was just throwing it out there for an idea. That is how good things get better.
Many minds come up with good ideas. Take it as an insult if you want, but I was just throwing it out there for an idea. That is how good things get better.
10-30-2008, 03:24 PM
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I don't take it as an insult.
If I put a connecter 6" from the back 50% of the people will say why is it not at 18". If I put it at 18" then 50% say why not at 6". You get the idea.
I wished it was as simple as slapping a connector on the back and being done but, it directly affect a lot of things! The Pulse itself is nice and thin, easy to mount and there is not much room that is not covered by the LCD itself! Adding connectors takes away many of those things.
I just don't want people to think we never thought of it. Heck thats what we wanted but, there were too many downsides to it.
Besides, once you get the latest version installed it is a non-issue.
If I put a connecter 6" from the back 50% of the people will say why is it not at 18". If I put it at 18" then 50% say why not at 6". You get the idea.
I wished it was as simple as slapping a connector on the back and being done but, it directly affect a lot of things! The Pulse itself is nice and thin, easy to mount and there is not much room that is not covered by the LCD itself! Adding connectors takes away many of those things.
I just don't want people to think we never thought of it. Heck thats what we wanted but, there were too many downsides to it.
Besides, once you get the latest version installed it is a non-issue.
10-30-2008, 05:28 PM
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The only difference is the amount of MAX fuel stretch between each tune, except for the dyno tune.
Doing this makes each step more aggressive with 1000 being the mildest yet still very strong, 2000 more aggressive and the Comp very aggressive.
The Dyno tune is the same as the COMP except that you reach max fueling at 70% TPS.
Any of these tunes can be made to another tune or modified.
If you want it more aggressive you can either turn the MIN TPS% down or you can turn the MAX TPS% down. Both makes the throttle more responsive. If you have an thoughts you might get surging I recommend not moving the TPS MIN down any, as that is what causes some of the surging people get.
You can turn the fuel stretch up on any tune out there. Turning this up will make more smoke, in some cases a lot of smoke, but, typically once you get over 1800-2000 most trucks will see a loss on high rpm horsepower. You will see torque go up and rise faster though. Each setup will be slightly different, which is why we leave this option open.
Doing this makes each step more aggressive with 1000 being the mildest yet still very strong, 2000 more aggressive and the Comp very aggressive.
The Dyno tune is the same as the COMP except that you reach max fueling at 70% TPS.
Any of these tunes can be made to another tune or modified.
If you want it more aggressive you can either turn the MIN TPS% down or you can turn the MAX TPS% down. Both makes the throttle more responsive. If you have an thoughts you might get surging I recommend not moving the TPS MIN down any, as that is what causes some of the surging people get.
You can turn the fuel stretch up on any tune out there. Turning this up will make more smoke, in some cases a lot of smoke, but, typically once you get over 1800-2000 most trucks will see a loss on high rpm horsepower. You will see torque go up and rise faster though. Each setup will be slightly different, which is why we leave this option open.
10-30-2008, 06:06 PM
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The only difference is the amount of MAX fuel stretch between each tune, except for the dyno tune.
Doing this makes each step more aggressive with 1000 being the mildest yet still very strong, 2000 more aggressive and the Comp very aggressive.
The Dyno tune is the same as the COMP except that you reach max fueling at 70% TPS.
Any of these tunes can be made to another tune or modified.
If you want it more aggressive you can either turn the MIN TPS% down or you can turn the MAX TPS% down. Both makes the throttle more responsive. If you have an thoughts you might get surging I recommend not moving the TPS MIN down any, as that is what causes some of the surging people get.
You can turn the fuel stretch up on any tune out there. Turning this up will make more smoke, in some cases a lot of smoke, but, typically once you get over 1800-2000 most trucks will see a loss on high rpm horsepower. You will see torque go up and rise faster though. Each setup will be slightly different, which is why we leave this option open.
Doing this makes each step more aggressive with 1000 being the mildest yet still very strong, 2000 more aggressive and the Comp very aggressive.
The Dyno tune is the same as the COMP except that you reach max fueling at 70% TPS.
Any of these tunes can be made to another tune or modified.
If you want it more aggressive you can either turn the MIN TPS% down or you can turn the MAX TPS% down. Both makes the throttle more responsive. If you have an thoughts you might get surging I recommend not moving the TPS MIN down any, as that is what causes some of the surging people get.
You can turn the fuel stretch up on any tune out there. Turning this up will make more smoke, in some cases a lot of smoke, but, typically once you get over 1800-2000 most trucks will see a loss on high rpm horsepower. You will see torque go up and rise faster though. Each setup will be slightly different, which is why we leave this option open.
I def want it to blow waaay more smoke than it does now, at what point will it absolutely kill the top end? Or is it just something I'm gonna have to play with till i find a spot I like it?
10-30-2008, 06:32 PM
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When it comes to the connector I will also add that I contacted Quads staff prior to the cut. I cut the cord before I sent it in for the upgrade. I have mine mounted on the pillar and planned on cutting the connector anyway. Sure is nice and easy though.
10-30-2008, 10:16 PM
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I def want it to blow waaay more smoke than it does now, at what point will it absolutely kill the top end?
Things that will make more smoke:
Lowering the Boost scale down
Lowering TPS MIN on both CAN and for the PUMP
Lowering TPS MAX on both CAN and PUMP
Raising MAX PUMP STRETCH
Lowering MAX TIMING
Lowering TIMING SCALE
All those things in one way or another will make more smoke. Raising the pump stretch is the simplest way to do it.
Or is it just something I'm gonna have to play with till i find a spot I like it?
10-31-2008, 12:02 PM
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The only difference is the amount of MAX fuel stretch between each tune, except for the dyno tune.
Doing this makes each step more aggressive with 1000 being the mildest yet still very strong, 2000 more aggressive and the Comp very aggressive.
The Dyno tune is the same as the COMP except that you reach max fueling at 70% TPS.
Any of these tunes can be made to another tune or modified.
If you want it more aggressive you can either turn the MIN TPS% down or you can turn the MAX TPS% down. Both makes the throttle more responsive. If you have an thoughts you might get surging I recommend not moving the TPS MIN down any, as that is what causes some of the surging people get.
You can turn the fuel stretch up on any tune out there. Turning this up will make more smoke, in some cases a lot of smoke, but, typically once you get over 1800-2000 most trucks will see a loss on high rpm horsepower. You will see torque go up and rise faster though. Each setup will be slightly different, which is why we leave this option open.
Doing this makes each step more aggressive with 1000 being the mildest yet still very strong, 2000 more aggressive and the Comp very aggressive.
The Dyno tune is the same as the COMP except that you reach max fueling at 70% TPS.
Any of these tunes can be made to another tune or modified.
If you want it more aggressive you can either turn the MIN TPS% down or you can turn the MAX TPS% down. Both makes the throttle more responsive. If you have an thoughts you might get surging I recommend not moving the TPS MIN down any, as that is what causes some of the surging people get.
You can turn the fuel stretch up on any tune out there. Turning this up will make more smoke, in some cases a lot of smoke, but, typically once you get over 1800-2000 most trucks will see a loss on high rpm horsepower. You will see torque go up and rise faster though. Each setup will be slightly different, which is why we leave this option open.
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10-31-2008, 01:22 PM
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MIN TPS means you have to reach that TPS position in order for it to start fueling.
The very first beta version was not like this but, all the current versions are.
The very first beta version was not like this but, all the current versions are.
10-31-2008, 07:04 PM
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I have been running the ADR 3000 tune sense it came out and was very happy with it well today I wanted to try the new tunes ADR_DYNO & ADRCOMP well I felt like I lost a little power with both of them . So I wanted to reload the ADR 3000 tune but it's not on Quads web sight and I don't have it saved on my computer so does anyone know how I can get the ADR 3000 tune back
10-31-2008, 10:12 PM
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Does it surge with the new tunes? If so you need to send it back for a firmware upgrade.
I have been running the ADR 3000 tune sense it came out and was very happy with it well today I wanted to try the new tunes ADR_DYNO & ADRCOMP well I felt like I lost a little power with both of them . So I wanted to reload the ADR 3000 tune but it's not on Quads web sight and I don't have it saved on my computer so does anyone know how I can get the ADR 3000 tune back
10-31-2008, 10:52 PM
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No surge problem with any tune I ran ,with the 2 new tunes they only allowed me to build boost up to 44#s but when I ran the ADR 3000 I could go to 47# of boost and it just felt a little stronger.