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Old 09-21-2008, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by xtoyz17
Well, I've got an update but not sure how it's gonna be relevant.

This morning I loaded up the ADR1k (that J Lent sent dated 4/15/08) tune, and have reinstalled it a few different times. "Surging" is gone as long as the truck isn't flashing "defueling". Basically whats that means is that this is one of the old tunes that would flash defueling.

E.g. Lightly accelerating or holding a steady speed this tune was SMOOTH. For the first 20-30 miles it didn't even so much as hiccup. Once the truck started flashing defueling (with no parameters even set), the truck would surge.

The ONLY time it surged, was when it was defueling. It did it to me with RPM's around 1800 lightly accelerating with traffic, holding steady at 40-50 mph, and holding steady from 60-75 mph.

So, the chip is turned off and I may be pulling it out tomorrow but at the very least maybe this can explain some of the surging we're experiencing? Could the tunes because defueling and that's why we get the surging and bucking?

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Shawn
Yeah, that tune wasn't meant to be run on the truck for more than a day. I only used it to get a clean download, then download a file to my likings. I bet that if you try downloading a different file now, the surge should be gone.
Old 09-21-2008, 09:17 AM
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I will have to try a new tune- the old 1000 started surging on me on the highway on every setting except 0 and 1. I will download the Comp tune again and see if it still surges.
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Originally Posted by J Lent
Yeah, that tune wasn't meant to be run on the truck for more than a day.
Why do you say that?
I never did get a surge free download from DR1000.
But after switching to Comp tune.... I'm happy. I can drive it daily with only minor surging. Much easier to drive through surge on PL04 and above than on lower, more sluggish, settings.

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Old 09-21-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RowJ
Why do you say that?
I never did get a surge free download from DR1000.
But after switching to Comp tune.... I'm happy. I can drive it daily with only minor surging. Much easier to drive through surge on PL04 and above than on lower, more sluggish, settings.

RJ
I meant that the 1000 file I sent to you guys was a old tune with minor issues 'flashes defueling". I only used that file to clean the box of the surge & it seemed to work, but was only sent for that reason. Are you saying that you don't think the 1000 tune I sent actually made a difference? Thats what I'm trying to figure out, it may be just a good/bad download issue. That is why I tried just downloading the comp tune on my friends truck & it still had the surge until we reset it using the 1000 tune.
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Could it be that the problem is that not all of the old program(tune) is being overwritten by the new one and the programs are becoming corrupted in this way. If that is what is happening then it seems like it would be fairly easy to solve by Quad coming out with a cleaning tune. This would be a program to force an overwrite of all of the available flash memory with either all 1's or 0's, just to insure that all of the old program was gone. Then you could install the tune of your choice with out any problems.
This is just the way it's looking to me and I've been wrong more than I've been right

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Originally Posted by J Lent
.... Are you saying that you don't think the 1000 tune I sent actually made a difference?
Mine original 1000 is from 2/13/08, modified on 5/12. No difference after 5 downloads.

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Ran the COMP tune today. Holding in traffic at 40, no surge. Speed limit changed to 45 and I LIGHTLY accelerated to 45 and the truck started surging hard, with the RPM noticably bouncing probably 250-300.
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Originally Posted by xtoyz17
Ran the COMP tune today. Holding in traffic at 40, no surge. Speed limit changed to 45 and I LIGHTLY accelerated to 45 and the truck started surging hard, with the RPM noticably bouncing probably 250-300.
What number setting, ie. power?
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It was PL07....
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I used the 2000 series tune that i had stored on my desktop it was sated 3-07-08 and it ran like crap, but i just downloaded the comp tune and its smooth with very light surge in the upper levels but nothing like it was before.
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Originally Posted by xtoyz17
It was PL07....
10-4. Mine is going to surge on anything above 3. Same results with TST Comp though.
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Originally Posted by Tiger Rag
10-4. Mine is going to surge on anything above 3. Same results with TST Comp though.
Well, to be clear it will do it on PL03 and above. I just happened to be on 7 at that point.

I'm going to check the wire tap AGAIN in the morning. I've checked it like 4 times and it's always been a good connection, but I guess it never hurts to keep checking.

If yours is doing it on the TST too, then I'd have to suspect something other than the chips? E.g. trans, sensors, etc..
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Originally Posted by RowJ
Mine original 1000 is from 2/13/08, modified on 5/12. No difference after 5 downloads.

RJ
Wanna try mine? I could send it to you, but after reading these posts, I'm starting to think it is just a download issue.
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Thanks....... but Comp is working fine for me! We had a warm day yesterday.. over 90*... and Comp ran well with only minor surge.

RJ
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Originally Posted by xtoyz17
Well, to be clear it will do it on PL03 and above. I just happened to be on 7 at that point.

I'm going to check the wire tap AGAIN in the morning. I've checked it like 4 times and it's always been a good connection, but I guess it never hurts to keep checking.

If yours is doing it on the TST too, then I'd have to suspect something other than the chips? E.g. trans, sensors, etc..
I think a lot has to do with big injectors. I have 220 hp injectors. It doesn't surge with Edge Comp or regular TST tune. Just Adrenaline and TST Comp. I think when you fuel this aggressively, you are going to get surging. As long as I have some Umph on low settings, I can deal with the surging on higher setting because it won't surge with the foot to the floorboard at the drags.


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