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Old 04-07-2005, 12:17 PM
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150s with a stock turbo

im looking at running a set of 150s till next year when the twins gind there way under the hood. will they be to hot for daily driving till i can get the twins on .
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On which truck?...the 99 I assume. Stock injectors now? Whose 150's? Tranny still stock?
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yes they are going into the 99. yes i have the borring stockers in there now and the tranny is getting done before the injectors . i have been looking at the jammer 5s i know were to get them for a good price
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With your box, I would expect 150's to be hot & smokey! JMO. No personal expirience with Jammers.

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You'd be surprised how big an injector you can get away with if you have a little skinny pedal moderation.

Yes, the VA will make them smoke a little more than they otherwise might.

The injector maker you choose will be the biggest determinant. I'd only consider a small handful of 150hp sticks remotely streetable. Both of them are EDM. Then again, many people have different definitions of streetable. Some people think a tube-chassis, full-cage, hi-stall, 4.56-geared, blown big block Nova with no heat, no radio, and nothing else but HP and a thirst for race gas is "streetable". Not me.

I don't worry about high EGTs when I think of streetable. I think of smoke. If I can drive around town and not fog the road uncontrollably, then I'm happy with that.

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Smoke is very controllable with the jammer 5's. You should be fine with them and a stock turbo for now, just watch the egt's.
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sleds,
wich htb2 is that you have . and how bad are we talking smoke wise with these jammer stick .
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My 4's have a lot more no smoke power than my old stage II honed injectors. Much better for daily driving for me. I can pull into traffic and accelerate with just about no smoke at all now.

They CAN smoke very heavy is I nail it off boost, but I have to try to do that and it is all related to the skinny pedal. I would assume 5's are just a bit worse.

Stock turbo here so far. No other issues yet. I would think you could get away with the 5's for quite a while.

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Not to get side tracked...


521.2 HP/1122 ft-lbs - (no meth) Dynojet 248c, 3-16-05
571HP 1096FTLBS.

Rowland you put down 521.2 with 150 HP Mach 4 EDM's.

Sleds you put down 571 with 150 HP jammer EDM's.

Rowland has the mad ECM/TST PM3.

Sleds has the drag comp.

Does that drag comp account for that much of a diff??

I would think the MAD ECM/TST PM3 combo would be stronger.

Both have pretty comparable turbos.

Another question??

I thought Don's new M 4's were going to be rated higher then 150 HP?




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I would not agree that the turbos are comparable. Sledpuller HTB2 has much bigger compressor, I believe.
My TST is not a comp model and while the MAD ECM is stronger on low end....at wide open throttle it does NOT add any fuel over stock.

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The sledpuller has a 4mm bigger inducer wheel. The exhaust side will probably flow more than the ksb-1 also. My numbers were done on a MD2500. One thing I've always wondered is how do the company's rate their injector? Is it with a stock turbo or a large enough turbo to burn the amount of fuel delivered?
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Originally posted by sleds
The sledpuller has a 4mm bigger inducer wheel. The exhaust side will probably flow more than the ksb-1 also. My numbers were done on a MD2500. One thing I've always wondered is how do the company's rate their injector? Is it with a stock turbo or a large enough turbo to burn the amount of fuel delivered?
Your exhaust housing would probably flow more, but with Rowland's external wg they might be very close.

Every MD 250 I have ever seen has read considerably lower then the dynojets.
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