12 to 14 turbo housing swap
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12 to 14 turbo housing swap
I want to swap my stock 12cc housing to a 14. What is involved in the swap? Is it a simple bolt on procedure or are there other modifications to the turbo necessary?
Truck is a 95 12v.
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Truck is a 95 12v.
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No other mods are necessary.
Just unbolt the turbo, remove the exhaust housing and bolt the new on it.
Get a wastegated housing though, and maybe drill thru the center wall while it is off. This allows better cooling of the front cylinders.
Just unbolt the turbo, remove the exhaust housing and bolt the new on it.
Get a wastegated housing though, and maybe drill thru the center wall while it is off. This allows better cooling of the front cylinders.
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Why?
Everyone I have talked to with Hybrid 35/40's has gone to a 14 cm non-gated housing and never looked back. They claim quicker spool up, and excellent cooling. And they didn't have any issues with boost getting too high, the fuel was well balanced for the turbo setup. You don't need a wastegate unless seriously overfueled.
Everyone I have talked to with Hybrid 35/40's has gone to a 14 cm non-gated housing and never looked back. They claim quicker spool up, and excellent cooling. And they didn't have any issues with boost getting too high, the fuel was well balanced for the turbo setup. You don't need a wastegate unless seriously overfueled.
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I have a similar question, I was thinking of getting an 18.5 housing and putting it on mine along with the HTT stage 3 compressor wheel, is that what most do with that kind of setup? sorry for the jack, didn't feel it needed a new thread
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Why?
Everyone I have talked to with Hybrid 35/40's has gone to a 14 cm non-gated housing and never looked back. They claim quicker spool up, and excellent cooling. And they didn't have any issues with boost getting too high, the fuel was well balanced for the turbo setup. You don't need a wastegate unless seriously overfueled.
Everyone I have talked to with Hybrid 35/40's has gone to a 14 cm non-gated housing and never looked back. They claim quicker spool up, and excellent cooling. And they didn't have any issues with boost getting too high, the fuel was well balanced for the turbo setup. You don't need a wastegate unless seriously overfueled.
But there is more to it than just boost. Drive pressure is back pressure and if the excess cal get around the turbine then it will lower the drive pressure.
high boost with a 35 creates heat and that is detrimental to power.
35-40 psi is out of the range of efficiency of the hx35.
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Why?
Everyone I have talked to with Hybrid 35/40's has gone to a 14 cm non-gated housing and never looked back.
Every housing has its limit. A wastegated housing gives the best of both worlds--quick spooling due to the small cross sectional area of the scroll and decent breathing up top thanks to the wastegate bypassing excess pressure to the downpipe. Those that like the 14 non-wg simply haven't added enough fuel to overboost it.
They claim quicker spool up, and excellent cooling.
There's no way a 14 can spool quicker than a 12, all other settings being the same. Perhaps the wastegates on the 12cm housing were stuck open or something along those lines. Otherwise, a 12 will spool faster than a 14.
And they didn't have any issues with boost getting too high, the fuel was well balanced for the turbo setup.
Fuel delivery can be tuned to the turbo, I won't argue that, but my wennie VE rotary pump will peg my 40psi gauge while running the 18.5, whereas I can set the wastegate on my 12cm to hold things to 30psi, or 20, or 40, whatever I like.
You don't need a wastegate unless seriously overfueled.
I have an internally stock VE pump and stock injectors. I would not consider my truck seriously overfueled, but I would consider 40+psi with the 18.5 too much. With a non-gated 14, I'd be able to use less than 1/2 of the available fuel my pump can put out.
Everyone I have talked to with Hybrid 35/40's has gone to a 14 cm non-gated housing and never looked back.
Every housing has its limit. A wastegated housing gives the best of both worlds--quick spooling due to the small cross sectional area of the scroll and decent breathing up top thanks to the wastegate bypassing excess pressure to the downpipe. Those that like the 14 non-wg simply haven't added enough fuel to overboost it.
They claim quicker spool up, and excellent cooling.
There's no way a 14 can spool quicker than a 12, all other settings being the same. Perhaps the wastegates on the 12cm housing were stuck open or something along those lines. Otherwise, a 12 will spool faster than a 14.
And they didn't have any issues with boost getting too high, the fuel was well balanced for the turbo setup.
Fuel delivery can be tuned to the turbo, I won't argue that, but my wennie VE rotary pump will peg my 40psi gauge while running the 18.5, whereas I can set the wastegate on my 12cm to hold things to 30psi, or 20, or 40, whatever I like.
You don't need a wastegate unless seriously overfueled.
I have an internally stock VE pump and stock injectors. I would not consider my truck seriously overfueled, but I would consider 40+psi with the 18.5 too much. With a non-gated 14, I'd be able to use less than 1/2 of the available fuel my pump can put out.
I'm not trying to step on any toes, just typing from experience. I run an HTT 60mm compressor wheel with a 12cm w/g housing and love it. A non-gated 14 would be fine to 'x' amount of fuel, but that's it. For a p-pump engine, maybe 300 RWHP and that's it. More fuel than that and the 14 would overspeed the turbo...
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I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not saying I'm right, just stating what I have personally seen and worked on/with.
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