htrex4

Does anyone have a pic of the "0" plate by any chance? Mine is going to hit the grinder soon...I want to keep something in there, but take as much off as possible. If anyone has a pic of this so-called plate, let me know! Thanks a million!

Tom

Rebel

Yeah me to I've been wanting to make one myself. Somebuddy have a pic?

Helicopter Dan

a better plate than the 0 plate is Piers "race plate", call him and he'll give you all the info about it

Rebel

I'm running a PDR race-plate now ;D Just wanted to try a 0 plate for something different

gunracer1

i have heard it was nothing more than a#10 cut straight up and down at it's deepest point. but i don't think that is correct, i am having some plates made up right now and i will make it straight up and down, but 40 or 50k deeper than the deepest part of a #10. and i am making one that has a #10 profile on the bottom and a 0 profile from the center up. but trying to get folks to talk about this is pretty tuff. this is near 20 year old tech stuff. i see no reason to be so tight lipped about it.

gunracer1

it sure got sent way back so here is a bump

MCummings

[quote author=gunracer1 link=board=7;threadid=23694;start=0#msg223806 date=1071511454]
this is d**n near 20 year old tech stuff.[/quote]

Because they took the time to test these plates on their own truck, risking pump failures, or even engine failures. Spent time designing the exact plate for different style pumps.

You are paying for their knowledge, and research. That's why they don't go around telling everybody, becuase they did the testing, and would like to profit from that. (They ARE a business)

You are doing the same thing, and if you screw up a plate, you could screw up your pump. Now we know that is unlikely, but, they didn't when designing these plates, so a huge potential risk was involved.

Now, you are trying to re-design the plate. Maybe you could call Piers, or Joe Donnely up and have them build you a custom plate? I'm sure they could.

I sell torque plates for $220, and that's with a new break off screw, a template for installation, and instructions, and you get to keep your OE torque plate. To some people, it's worth the trouble taking their plate out, and trying to figure out how to grind it. To some people, it's easier just to make a phone call, and $220 later, have a professionally designed plate at the door ready to drop in.

My $.02
Merrick

gunracer1

am i the only one that thinks they are way over priced for what they are. and i am sure they have paid for their research many times over. and face it, this is not rocket science stuff. i bought my first #10 plate and once i saw it i said never again. plus i like building stuff, to me it is just as much fun to build it as it is to drive it.

htrex4

I'm with ya, though i would like a pic of this thing so i can hit the wheel with it. I have another plate laying around, so I may go to town on that one. One of my buddies is running no plate...which is fun, but I'm not in the mood to put a new pump in if you know what i mean. Thank you everyone, and if anyone can come up with a pic that would be great...otherwise, ill be in my place...in the garage.

Take Care
Tom

gunracer1

see i told you it is hard to get them to talk about it.

fast 5.9

No offense intended, but if you like building your own stuff & playing.....why don't you just do it, instead of taking the easy way out???

98rammer

i made a #0 with a stock plate. i just ground the profile flat-- grinding a little and then cooling it off, grinding some more, etc. be careful though, after about 2/3 of the way of the plate being forward, the arm will go underneath the plate in the "no plate zone". so then you have to do the piers lever adjustment. full rack travel doesn't make as muh power as a few mm back does (18mm will make more hp than 21mm-- depending on pump, etc.).

and if you do the lever adjustment, just remember to tighten the nut up real tight, or you'll be paying for it miles later :-

Tom

J.R. Adkins

[quote author=98rammer link=board=7;threadid=23694;start=0#msg225442 date=1071711073]
full rack travel doesn't make as muh power as a few mm back does (18mm will make more hp than 21mm-- depending on pump, etc.).

Tom
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Most trucks do not have enough air to utilize all the fuel that "full rack " travel will provide. Most "street" twins still dont even have enough air. I would say that 90% of the street driven trucks will make better power with 18 mm of rack travel. Of course as with anything your results may vary. :P

J.R.

Mostwanted

my rack broke when I was trying to put it back together. So I removed it. What does this mean in relation to the the plate? Does this make the plate useless?

98rammer

[quote author=J.R. Adkins link=board=7;threadid=23694;start=0#msg225541 date=1071719192]
Most "street" twins still dont even have enough air.[/quote]

unless your name is MADDOG ;D