Originally Posted by Blake Clark

If you could only spend one day with me you would see the foolishness in your logic. Not saying youre wrong in the way you are thinking, but it just wont work. GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about....

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The way we are working out here stick is the only way to go. Beside, you can carry a lot more iron with a good hand and a 3/16 rod than with wire feed.

Originally Posted by Blake Clark

There are automatic spreads that exist, but in a stationary push operation. They require additional equipment also, such as enclosed stalls to protect the welding environment.


If you could only spend one day with me you would see the foolishness in your logic. Not saying youre wrong in the way you are thinking, but it just wont work. GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about GMAW wont work well in the elements and high wind. Flux core wont produce a quality weld on inner sheild alone, it requires additional shielding gas, which comes full circle to the spiel about....

See were Im going with this....






The way we are working out here stick is the only way to go. Beside, you can carry a lot more iron with a good hand and a 3/16 rod than with wire feed.

Originally Posted by chaikwa

2 words; FLUX CORED!

Originally Posted by Blake Clark

Ill give ya a shout when I get up an 0400....


Too bad you couldnt make it down here for a day. I bet I could get clearance for you to take a little visit of our operations.

Originally Posted by Totallyrad

Doesn't that bring back the whole chipping away the flux and brushing the weld before you can continue thing again?

Originally Posted by cincydiesel

Good grief Chaikwa looks like you hit on a touchy subject.. If it were up to me, all the pipe lines would be hollowed out trees sealed with wood glue.. Only because I wouldn't even know how to turn on a welder

Originally Posted by chaikwa

I was thinking maybe this winter would be a good time for a visit. That would kill 2 birds with one stone; I could see a real welding operation and watch you shiver at the same time!

Originally Posted by Totallyrad

There's an easier way to explain it, see the example below.

Doesn't that bring back the whole chipping away the flux and brushing the weld before you can continue thing again?

Originally Posted by cincydiesel

Only because I wouldn't even know how to turn on a welder

Originally Posted by chaikwa

I was thinking maybe this winter would be a good time for a visit. That would kill 2 birds with one stone; I could see a real welding operation and watch you shiver at the same time!

Originally Posted by chaikwa

Yes, but you do it ONCE when you're done with the entire joint instead of every 4 inches.

Originally Posted by cincydiesel

Good grief Chaikwa looks like you hit on a touchy subject.. If it were up to me, all the pipe lines would be hollowed out trees sealed with wood glue..

Originally Posted by Blake Clark

Well I wasnt gonna do it but....

Originally Posted by Blake Clark

Umm not quite. Lil better than four inches.

Right now on fill and cap the welders are averaging three rods to the bottom. Only after that pass is completed is it buffed. Two fills and then capped.

Not too bad.

Originally Posted by chaikwa

Y'know, they make train tracks that are one piece for half a mile or better, THEN there's a weld joint. Why can't they make pipe that way? In a thousand mile run, do you know how much welding labor that would save?

Originally Posted by Blake Clark

Honestly

The logistics of getting said half mile of pipe to the jobsite is probably more costly than the welding.

Not to mention the changes in direction, overbends sags etc. that are field engineered and put into the line.

Originally Posted by chaikwa

Y'know, they make train tracks that are one piece for half a mile or better, THEN there's a weld joint. Why can't they make pipe that way? In a thousand mile run, do you know how much welding labor that would save?

Originally Posted by chaikwa

Y'know, they make train tracks that are one piece for half a mile or better, THEN there's a weld joint. Why can't they make pipe that way? In a thousand mile run, do you know how much welding labor that would save?