A REALLY good reason to keep your driver's license, reg., and insurance REAL handy
12-12-2007, 09:55 PM
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A REALLY good reason to keep your driver's license, reg., and insurance REAL handy
I guess more than 40 seconds is not the training standard in Austin, TX. 
Seriously, I am just TOTALLY stunned (no pun intended) something like this even happens. From a purely logical stand point it just makes no sense.
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Seriously, I am just TOTALLY stunned (no pun intended) something like this even happens. From a purely logical stand point it just makes no sense. Link removed due to profanity
12-12-2007, 10:11 PM
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Wow talk abought impationce(sp). I realize cops have to have some leway on judgment calls but that video makes that cop look bad. I would have a hard time dealing with a cop like that. I would probobly just drive away but that would make it 100 times worse.
12-12-2007, 10:16 PM
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For what amounts to aggrivated assault under color of authority and the civil rights violations are countless........3 days suspension? Should be interesting to see what if any judgement/settlement finalizes.
http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stori...b.7bf8b8f.html
Man tasered by APD officer files lawsuit
06:37 PM CST on Tuesday, December 11, 2007
By MELISSA MCGUIRE
KVUE News
The lawsuits against the City of Austin and its police officers continue to pile up. The latest comes from a man who was tasered on Thanksgiving Day 2006.
Click here for larger video Austin Police Corporal Thomas O'Connor pulled over Eugene Darryl Snelling for traveling five miles per hour over the speed limit. It was a seemingly simple violation that turned into a major ordeal.
Here is some of the audio from the patrol car camera:
Officer: Step out of the vehicle, take your seatbelt off... Step out of the vehicle and give me your drivers license and proof of insurance... (pause)… Turn to the back of the vehicle and place your hands on the door. Place your hands on the back of the vehicle… (taser…. screams.)
Those screams came from Snelling's mother and cousin who were inside his car.
It's not clear why Corporal Thomas used his taser. He was later suspended for three days.
"I felt that I was a victim and I felt it was wrong for something that I didn't do, and I didn't provoke," said Snelling.
Last week, Snelling became the latest to sue the City of Austin and an Austin police officer in federal court. He claims his constitutional rights were violated.
"I just want… justice to be done, that's all I want,” he said.
Also this month, the family of Kevin Brown sued the city and Sergeant Michael Olsen. Olsen fatally shot Brown twice in the back and was fired for using poor judgment.
Another pending lawsuit is against the City of Austin and fired officer Gary Griffin. The department ruled Griffin used excessive force on a man sleeping at a bus stop.
In the past five years, 85 lawsuits have been filed against the city involving APD. Of the 19 lawsuits still pending, 15 allege civil rights violations.
That is exactly what Eugene Snelling alleges.
"That means that APD needs to look more closely and revamp their policies," said Snelling.
The total cost to taxpayers from these lawsuits isn't known. Settlements are kept private. Every department does pay into a liability fund.
Snelling is seeking damages, including medical expenses, lost earnings and pain and suffering.
Because of so many complaints relating to "use of force" -- specifically against minorities -- the federal government is currently investigating APD.
Under the new chief, many policies and procedures have already changed.
http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stori...b.7bf8b8f.html
Man tasered by APD officer files lawsuit
06:37 PM CST on Tuesday, December 11, 2007
By MELISSA MCGUIRE
KVUE News
The lawsuits against the City of Austin and its police officers continue to pile up. The latest comes from a man who was tasered on Thanksgiving Day 2006.
Click here for larger video Austin Police Corporal Thomas O'Connor pulled over Eugene Darryl Snelling for traveling five miles per hour over the speed limit. It was a seemingly simple violation that turned into a major ordeal.
Here is some of the audio from the patrol car camera:
Officer: Step out of the vehicle, take your seatbelt off... Step out of the vehicle and give me your drivers license and proof of insurance... (pause)… Turn to the back of the vehicle and place your hands on the door. Place your hands on the back of the vehicle… (taser…. screams.)
Those screams came from Snelling's mother and cousin who were inside his car.
It's not clear why Corporal Thomas used his taser. He was later suspended for three days.
"I felt that I was a victim and I felt it was wrong for something that I didn't do, and I didn't provoke," said Snelling.
Last week, Snelling became the latest to sue the City of Austin and an Austin police officer in federal court. He claims his constitutional rights were violated.
"I just want… justice to be done, that's all I want,” he said.
Also this month, the family of Kevin Brown sued the city and Sergeant Michael Olsen. Olsen fatally shot Brown twice in the back and was fired for using poor judgment.
Another pending lawsuit is against the City of Austin and fired officer Gary Griffin. The department ruled Griffin used excessive force on a man sleeping at a bus stop.
In the past five years, 85 lawsuits have been filed against the city involving APD. Of the 19 lawsuits still pending, 15 allege civil rights violations.
That is exactly what Eugene Snelling alleges.
"That means that APD needs to look more closely and revamp their policies," said Snelling.
The total cost to taxpayers from these lawsuits isn't known. Settlements are kept private. Every department does pay into a liability fund.
Snelling is seeking damages, including medical expenses, lost earnings and pain and suffering.
Because of so many complaints relating to "use of force" -- specifically against minorities -- the federal government is currently investigating APD.
Under the new chief, many policies and procedures have already changed.
12-12-2007, 10:20 PM
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Well, the link has been removed, but it sounds like the officer was a little impatient and unprofessional. I keep my stuff REAL handy, all together in the glove box. If something was not going as expected and an officer was getting out of control at me, I would just give 911 a call and tell them what was taking place and ask for another officer to assist ME for my protection in the situation. I like the fact that our doors are self-locking, I would only roll my window down far enough to SEE and be seen, and to hand out whatever requested. I will never step out of my vehicle without a second officer present, AND since I am a woman, it really needs to be a female officer.
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12-12-2007, 10:22 PM
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I think attorney Roger Bresnahan summed up what a LOT of Americans feel and expect.
"Some officers believe a citizen's civil rights end when they stop a person, but that's exactly when they begin. The only way to teach a lesson to police and have them change things is by going in front of a judge, and in fact a jury, and having a jury tell them, 'This is not the way you treat your citizens,'"
http://www.news8austin.com/content/y...sp?ArID=196503
A man tasered by Austin police last year is now suing the officer and the city.
Shot from O'Connor dashboard camera
Cpl. Thomas O'Connor arrested Darryl Snelling on Thanksgiving day in 2006 after he was pulled over for speeding on MoPac in West Austin.
His mother and cousin were in the car at the time.
O'Conner clocked Snelling's Hyundai Accent going five miles over the speed limit. He asked for some ID and insurance information, and 45 seconds later, Snelling was pulled from his car and shot with a Taser.
Snelling claims he did nothing wrong when he got out of the car and O'Connor used excessive force when he didn't have to.
The lawsuit, filed on Dec. 7, claims assault and battery, false arrest and false imprisonment for charges the officer levied on Snelling. Damages include medical expenses, pain and anguish and lost wages.
"I was a victim of something I couldn't believe, that an officer would go to that extent and that aggressiveness. He did," Snelling said.
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Taser suit
A man tased on Thanksgiving is suing the city and the police officer.
Snelling claims his mother suffered horribly that day when she witnessed her son's pain. Snelling himself suffered injuries. His attorney said O'Connor violated Snelling's civil rights through excessive use of force.
"Some officers believe a citizen's civil rights end when they stop a person, but that's exactly when they begin. The only way to teach a lesson to police and have them change things is by going in front of a judge, and in fact a jury, and having a jury tell them, 'This is not the way you treat your citizens,'" attorney Roger Bresnahan said.
Snelling said he's fighting back because he doesn't want this to happen to anyone else.
"There's a right time to use it, and there's a wrong time to use it, and I believe what happened to me on Thanksgiving that day was definitely a wrong time to use it," Snelling said.
The city of Austin and the Austin Police Department said city attorneys recently received copies of the lawsuit and weren't prepared to make a statement.
"Some officers believe a citizen's civil rights end when they stop a person, but that's exactly when they begin. The only way to teach a lesson to police and have them change things is by going in front of a judge, and in fact a jury, and having a jury tell them, 'This is not the way you treat your citizens,'"
http://www.news8austin.com/content/y...sp?ArID=196503
A man tasered by Austin police last year is now suing the officer and the city.
Shot from O'Connor dashboard camera
Cpl. Thomas O'Connor arrested Darryl Snelling on Thanksgiving day in 2006 after he was pulled over for speeding on MoPac in West Austin.
His mother and cousin were in the car at the time.
O'Conner clocked Snelling's Hyundai Accent going five miles over the speed limit. He asked for some ID and insurance information, and 45 seconds later, Snelling was pulled from his car and shot with a Taser.
Snelling claims he did nothing wrong when he got out of the car and O'Connor used excessive force when he didn't have to.
The lawsuit, filed on Dec. 7, claims assault and battery, false arrest and false imprisonment for charges the officer levied on Snelling. Damages include medical expenses, pain and anguish and lost wages.
"I was a victim of something I couldn't believe, that an officer would go to that extent and that aggressiveness. He did," Snelling said.
WATCH THE VIDEO
Taser suit
A man tased on Thanksgiving is suing the city and the police officer.
Snelling claims his mother suffered horribly that day when she witnessed her son's pain. Snelling himself suffered injuries. His attorney said O'Connor violated Snelling's civil rights through excessive use of force.
"Some officers believe a citizen's civil rights end when they stop a person, but that's exactly when they begin. The only way to teach a lesson to police and have them change things is by going in front of a judge, and in fact a jury, and having a jury tell them, 'This is not the way you treat your citizens,'" attorney Roger Bresnahan said.
Snelling said he's fighting back because he doesn't want this to happen to anyone else.
"There's a right time to use it, and there's a wrong time to use it, and I believe what happened to me on Thanksgiving that day was definitely a wrong time to use it," Snelling said.
The city of Austin and the Austin Police Department said city attorneys recently received copies of the lawsuit and weren't prepared to make a statement.
12-12-2007, 10:28 PM
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With a WHOLE 3 day suspension behind it
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/opm/downl...nor_06-635.pdf
At least in that report the Chief of Police admits the officer's attitude was out of line and did not have adequate evidence to actually USE the tazer.
Just for anyone that is bored like me. Here is the transcript for the IA of the police officer.
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/..._affidavit.pdf
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/opm/downl...nor_06-635.pdf
At least in that report the Chief of Police admits the officer's attitude was out of line and did not have adequate evidence to actually USE the tazer.
Just for anyone that is bored like me. Here is the transcript for the IA of the police officer.
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/..._affidavit.pdf
12-12-2007, 11:44 PM
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yeah I've seen the video. yeah I think he should stand before a fully educated jury.
I also have a video of a friend in austin that got tazed. The news was filming a story on over use of force oddly enough on 6th street and you see him running in the back ground and the news crew takes chase
crazy.
They got him with 2 tazers.
Problem I had was the cop lied on tape and said he was using stolen credit cards. Incorrect he was using a fake ID and grabbed it from a door man trying to keep it and ran.
Cops shouldn't lie.
I also have a video of a friend in austin that got tazed. The news was filming a story on over use of force oddly enough on 6th street and you see him running in the back ground and the news crew takes chase
crazy.They got him with 2 tazers.
Problem I had was the cop lied on tape and said he was using stolen credit cards. Incorrect he was using a fake ID and grabbed it from a door man trying to keep it and ran.
Cops shouldn't lie.
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12-13-2007, 01:02 AM
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Sigh. I worked with so many good cops including a good friend, Officer John Watson, who was killed doing a welfare check just 8 months prior to retirement. On the news we dont see many video's of the good cops protecting us, just the bad ones. --Ok, I will get off my high horse. In this day of video those bad cops must be brain dead to be doing some of the things that turn up on video. They need to be hung out to dry.
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12-13-2007, 04:49 AM
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I think attorney Roger Bresnahan summed up what a LOT of Americans feel and expect.
"Some officers believe a citizen's civil rights end when they stop a person, but that's exactly when they begin. The only way to teach a lesson to police and have them change things is by going in front of a judge, and in fact a jury, and having a jury tell them, 'This is not the way you treat your citizens,'"
"Some officers believe a citizen's civil rights end when they stop a person, but that's exactly when they begin. The only way to teach a lesson to police and have them change things is by going in front of a judge, and in fact a jury, and having a jury tell them, 'This is not the way you treat your citizens,'"
12-13-2007, 08:27 AM
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My apologies, I had no idea there was ANY profanity in the link. I viewed it on my computer first and saw no profanity but I am on dialup which makes the play back kinda a jerky with gaps and pauses. I must have missed it.
12-13-2007, 08:56 AM
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I saw the video and all the guy had to do was give the officer his license but instead he tried to control the situation by telling the officer "uh no hold on" because he figured he could talk his way out of it with a large dose of BS.
Simple thing here folks, obey the Officers commands and things like this don't happen to you. First he wouldn't give his license then he failed to do every other command he gave after that as well, until he was tazerd of course THEN he started complying albeit unwillingly.
If you think you are going to control the situation when confronted by an Offficer doing his duty, then you will end up like this guy. I agree the Officer reacted too quickly, but if the guy had given him his license or even started looking for it, this would not have happened.
Simple thing here folks, obey the Officers commands and things like this don't happen to you. First he wouldn't give his license then he failed to do every other command he gave after that as well, until he was tazerd of course THEN he started complying albeit unwillingly.
If you think you are going to control the situation when confronted by an Offficer doing his duty, then you will end up like this guy. I agree the Officer reacted too quickly, but if the guy had given him his license or even started looking for it, this would not have happened.