capt.Ron

personally I feel that if I want to build a cardboard house and live in it it's my right to do so!!!
If it collapses or catches fire and kills me it's my problem.
All of this has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with control!!!!

BigIron70

You forgot the key word ((((MONEY))))

Blake Clark

Not yet. Still working 7's, but hopefully we will get it in and set up buy Hurricane Season 2025

Well you forget, lawyers got involved because those with no common sense sued someone with common sense.




Then came the codes.

I agree with codes (some) cause they do have good intentions in place (some). I guess its more so for the public sector, like making sure bridges, roadways, pipelines and such are up to standards.

For the private sector, if you're stupid enough to install a fire place in a paper mache house, then maybe you should get a little burned.

Now I know I said earlier about the housing code, but come on, common sense should trump all. If you are not smart enough or educated enough or skilled enough to build your shelter, then hire someone who is, and let them build something sound. This should be standard practice and there not even be a need for a code.

steelblitzkrieg

My wife worked for the County Ag department in Contra Costa County, CA. They have better quality satellite than what is available publicly from Google Earth. They check for building without permits, they check for Marijuana grows, several other things.

GIT-R-DONE

They have those codes here, newly implemented recently. Its a joke, and nothing but a money maker for the local/state. They are running out of ways to tax you so they have more to spend...point blank.

They had been fighting about it locally, didnt hear how it turned out yet though. You have to have an inspecter come out, if you....change a window.....hot water tank.....etc.

Fronty Owner

nah... as long as its someone else's problem, no one will do anything.

my step dad completely remodeled his house. fully up to code, licensed electricians, everything (he's a plumber so had the friends).
He closed in one side of his carport and got hit with a fine for no building permit. $100 worth of materials cost him another $150 for permitting.

chaikwa

Well, not entirely. It'll probably kill a few firefighters as well. In fact, I know of more than a few that HAVE been killed this way. Not to mention the homeowners kids, which is why I'm in the business I'm in, (fire safety instruction).

For the most part, I agree with you. Everything is WAY over-regulated. But them there's the flip-side too. There are numerous battles going on across the country right now regarding the installation of home sprinkler systems. I don't agree that they should be installed in existing dwellings, but they should be installed in all new construction. They DO save lives, not to mention property, and contrary to popular belief, they are not cost prohibitive. 5 grand will fully sprinkler a decent sized house. When you're looking at spending 100 grand or more to build a new house, you can't tell me another 5 grand is going to break you. If it does, you have no business building a new house in the first place!

In Massachusetts, just about everything you do to your property will require a permit; black topping the driveway, re-shingling the roof, replacing windows or doors, even tearing down the front steps will require a permit. WAAAAY over-board if you ask me!

Bark

I have to agree with you on that. As for the over-board part::
I recently ran into that problem at my parents house in CA. Their electric hot water heater croaked. I went to Sears to buy an exact replacement. They wanted me to pay for a permit for the installation. After some haggling the guy mentioned that I didn’t have to actually pay for the permit until the unit got installed and kind of rolled his eyes. I got the hint and said that we were buying the unit as a spare and would pay the permit when we installed it. Amazing!!!

wyododge

Unfortunately the authors of these regulations could give a rats behind about firefighters Scott. And they even less interested in the 'safety' of the public. They are in it for the money and the power. Plain and simple.

But they keep getting re-elected, so more power to em.

chaikwa

SEARS is issuing permits now? THAT'S reassuring!

You got that right!

ChrisLib

makes me want to paint a 24 foot blue circle in my yard.

chaikwa

You'll need a permit for that.

Blake Clark

Figures

wyododge

Kinda off topic here, but just a warning...

SOMEONE HAS BROKEN INTO THE FURBALLS COMPUTER AND IS IMPERSONATING HIM!!!

RAMRODD

OK a sprrinkler system for a house is about the dumbis't thing I have heard of lately. I just built a new house and I had to have those fancy $40 gfci breakers which love to trip when you plug in a power tool. Then I had to put in those stupid child proof outlets, Now its a freaking job just to plug something into a outlet.

This home electrical improvment package cost a extra $2500 your saying a $5000 sprinkler system should be required. Stuff starts to add up. Very few houses ever catch fire and ever burn down. And I had no interest installing a sprinkler system!!!
A city not to far from me requires the fire detectors be tested by a inspector. Now a electricion has to buy a can of fire detector smoke and while the inspector is there spray a little on each detector to set it off while the inspector stands there. only charges 150/200 a house. Don't you love progress