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05-24-2006, 07:27 PM
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I love those grunts, and have nothing but respect for them. The only gripe I have is that they put as much effort into taking care of their vehicles as they do romancing a one night stand 
. A little thing to remember, diesel engines don't like gasoline so please refrain from filling the tank with it. As for grunts being stupid, you either have to be stupid or extremly brave to do what they do, or sometimes both.
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. A little thing to remember, diesel engines don't like gasoline so please refrain from filling the tank with it. As for grunts being stupid, you either have to be stupid or extremly brave to do what they do, or sometimes both. Semper Fi Brothers
05-24-2006, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by marine4life
As for grunts being stupid, you either have to be stupid or extremly brave to do what they do, or sometimes both.
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05-24-2006, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by marine4life
As for grunts being stupid, you either have to be stupid or extremly brave to do what they do, or sometimes both.
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05-24-2006, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by IA_James
I was called alot of things while in the Marines, and Rocket Scientist was not among them. 0311 was.
05-25-2006, 06:29 AM
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Good story.......BUT.
From my ole' buddy Snopes
Claim: U.S. sniper, asked what he feels when he shoots an al-Qaeda member, replies: "Recoil."
Status: False.
Origins: We like our heroes larger than life, as this anecdote shows.
This account began arriving in the snopes.com inbox on 10 January 2006. Hunt about as we might, we have been unable to find mention of such an interview in newspaper or wire service archives (Reuters is a wire service) or through CNN's web site's search facility, on 9 December 2005 or any other date. Despite its glut of seemingly checkable facts (CNN, Reuters, 9 December 2005), the yarn is a humor piece, the soldier's pithy "Recoil" rejoinder naught but the punchline of a joke and the "checkable facts" mere window dressing. The same day the tale was first mailed to us, it also appeared as a post to the USENET newsgroup rec.humor.
The shorter example is the earlier of the two versions of the "Recoil" anecdote; the longer a reworking of the more compact original undertaken to express points its rewriter wanted to make. The second version adds a negative view of the media that was missing from the original: the Reuters reporter is characterized as "trying to milk the interview for all it was worth," he addresses the soldier (the story's lantern-jawed hero) "in a less than respectful tone," poses the question he does "in an effort to make [the soldier] feel guilty," and refers to a member of Al Qaeda as a "freedom fighter." It also adds a Gary Cooper-ish flourish to the soldier's remark by noting that after he made it he "turned and walked
away."
Many who have served in the U.S. forces in previous conflicts have reported hearing the tale during their time in the service. In particular, we've heard from a number of men who fought in the Vietnam War and who encountered the story at that time, either as a "bar tale" or as a comment scrawled on a latrine wall. One of our correspondents mentioned it being commonly written on the cloth helmet covers or the "boonie hats" worn by infantry soldiers, usually in the form of "All I feel when I kill is...Recoil! —Infantry."
Another of our Vietnam War correspondents told us about a similar comment that was also in circulation at that time:
The other, similar comment was a response to the "hippy" question,
"How can you shoot women and children?"
Answer: "They don't run as fast - you have to give them a little less lead."
The "recoil" anecdote presents the soldier (and thus by implication all U.S. soldiers) as an emotionless specialist who regards killing members of the enemy's forces as just part of the job, nothing more. When asked what he feels while taking a life, he answers not about any emotional response to killing another human being, but about his physical reality — that after squeezing off a shot he has to deal with the gun's recoil. Within the framework of the tale, U.S. soldiers are depicted as many would like to think of them: cool-headed capable professionals who will ultimately overcome the enemy no matter what obstacles now stand in their way, because that is what they've been trained to do and what they are very good at. The narrative thus delivers a measure of comfort, in that all feel reassured of their own safety, knowing they are defended by fighting men like these.
Whatever may be the truth about the emotional makeup of the average soldier, those who become snipers are very carefully chosen, not only for their marksmanship but for their emotional stability and outlook as well. "We need the kind of soldier who can turn the remorse button off," said Sgt. Buck, the head of an Edmonton Garrison-based sniper unit. (While Sgt. Buck was speaking about snipers serving in the Canadian Armed Forces, his comment applies equally to soldiers in that specialty across the board, no matter what their nationality.) When asking for sniper volunteers, the military seeks well-balanced professional soldiers with great emotional discipline.
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From my ole' buddy Snopes
Claim: U.S. sniper, asked what he feels when he shoots an al-Qaeda member, replies: "Recoil."
Status: False.
Origins: We like our heroes larger than life, as this anecdote shows.
This account began arriving in the snopes.com inbox on 10 January 2006. Hunt about as we might, we have been unable to find mention of such an interview in newspaper or wire service archives (Reuters is a wire service) or through CNN's web site's search facility, on 9 December 2005 or any other date. Despite its glut of seemingly checkable facts (CNN, Reuters, 9 December 2005), the yarn is a humor piece, the soldier's pithy "Recoil" rejoinder naught but the punchline of a joke and the "checkable facts" mere window dressing. The same day the tale was first mailed to us, it also appeared as a post to the USENET newsgroup rec.humor.
The shorter example is the earlier of the two versions of the "Recoil" anecdote; the longer a reworking of the more compact original undertaken to express points its rewriter wanted to make. The second version adds a negative view of the media that was missing from the original: the Reuters reporter is characterized as "trying to milk the interview for all it was worth," he addresses the soldier (the story's lantern-jawed hero) "in a less than respectful tone," poses the question he does "in an effort to make [the soldier] feel guilty," and refers to a member of Al Qaeda as a "freedom fighter." It also adds a Gary Cooper-ish flourish to the soldier's remark by noting that after he made it he "turned and walked
away."
Many who have served in the U.S. forces in previous conflicts have reported hearing the tale during their time in the service. In particular, we've heard from a number of men who fought in the Vietnam War and who encountered the story at that time, either as a "bar tale" or as a comment scrawled on a latrine wall. One of our correspondents mentioned it being commonly written on the cloth helmet covers or the "boonie hats" worn by infantry soldiers, usually in the form of "All I feel when I kill is...Recoil! —Infantry."
Another of our Vietnam War correspondents told us about a similar comment that was also in circulation at that time:
The other, similar comment was a response to the "hippy" question,
"How can you shoot women and children?"
Answer: "They don't run as fast - you have to give them a little less lead."
The "recoil" anecdote presents the soldier (and thus by implication all U.S. soldiers) as an emotionless specialist who regards killing members of the enemy's forces as just part of the job, nothing more. When asked what he feels while taking a life, he answers not about any emotional response to killing another human being, but about his physical reality — that after squeezing off a shot he has to deal with the gun's recoil. Within the framework of the tale, U.S. soldiers are depicted as many would like to think of them: cool-headed capable professionals who will ultimately overcome the enemy no matter what obstacles now stand in their way, because that is what they've been trained to do and what they are very good at. The narrative thus delivers a measure of comfort, in that all feel reassured of their own safety, knowing they are defended by fighting men like these.
Whatever may be the truth about the emotional makeup of the average soldier, those who become snipers are very carefully chosen, not only for their marksmanship but for their emotional stability and outlook as well. "We need the kind of soldier who can turn the remorse button off," said Sgt. Buck, the head of an Edmonton Garrison-based sniper unit. (While Sgt. Buck was speaking about snipers serving in the Canadian Armed Forces, his comment applies equally to soldiers in that specialty across the board, no matter what their nationality.) When asking for sniper volunteers, the military seeks well-balanced professional soldiers with great emotional discipline.
Barbara "ghille suited" Mikkelson
05-25-2006, 04:30 PM
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Everybody likes that tale because it strikes a chord in anybody that is sick of the media trashing our guys (and gals) in uniform. It's also tough watching a politician trash them when most have the opinion that a politician is one step below a used car salesman or crooked lawyer!!
05-25-2006, 06:56 PM
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i was on tender years ago and the ones that stayed in when i was in can retire now. did not think a whole lot of the intelligence level but they stayed in shape. they are conditioned to do what they do and the military seeks young impressionable people that they can maneuver. dont see bush out there on front lines or colon powell. they are fighting what they cant win.
05-25-2006, 08:55 PM
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That women and children quote came off that movie Full Metal Jacket. The door gunner on the Huey said that. Actually that's one of my favorite lines. And "Git some, Mama-San!". 
05-25-2006, 09:13 PM
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Back a while I saw a video that some scum Iraqi snipers were filming their snipers shooting at a US convoy. The sniper hit a corpman that had on a vest. He went down in pain but got back up and under cover. The U.S. soldiers located the direction of fire and took out after the sniper. In the chase that ensued the Queda guy got shot......guess who ultimately saved the scums life....the corpman he shot ! Our guys found the Qaeda camera taping it all. I wish I could find that link.....funny how that never made broadcast news !
05-25-2006, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Abbynormal
Back a while I saw a video that some scum Iraqi snipers were filming their snipers shooting at a US convoy. The sniper hit a corpman that had on a vest. He went down in pain but got back up and under cover. The U.S. soldiers located the direction of fire and took out after the sniper. In the chase that ensued the Queda guy got shot......guess who ultimately saved the scums life....the corpman he shot ! Our guys found the Qaeda camera taping it all. I wish I could find that link.....funny how that never made broadcast news !
05-25-2006, 10:40 PM
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This is also a great video, makes me remember why I joined the corps and why i'm gonna stay in till i'm old and cenile yelling how marines nowadays are soft and how hard the old corps was Make sure you take the time to thanks our war veterans. I think i'm gonna head down to the VFW and have a few beers and listen to war stories from ww2,Korea, and Vietnam.
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http://www.grunt.com/downloads/TRUEm...emorialDay.WMV
Make sure you take the time to thanks our war veterans. I think i'm gonna head down to the VFW and have a few beers and listen to war stories from ww2,Korea, and Vietnam.Semper Fi Marines
http://www.grunt.com/downloads/TRUEm...emorialDay.WMV