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Old 05-20-2012 | 10:11 PM
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'New' welding process

Saw this in a magazine. Looks suspiciously like brazing to me. And with a $2000 price tag, I can't see its' benefit over a conventional welding or plasma machine. Supposedly it will be sold in retail outlets like Tractor Supply later this year. Comes from Russia.

http://www.multiplaz.com/index
Old 05-20-2012 | 10:35 PM
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hmmm...
tig with a compressed air nozzle?
big power unit to drive accessories.
Old 05-21-2012 | 11:37 PM
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I'll wait for the movie.
Old 05-22-2012 | 06:45 AM
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This thing uses small amount of water or water/alcohol mix to make a slow moving plasma. Welding with that would be like welding with a poorly adjusted acetylene torch on steroids. Found this vid on utube. Yuck.

Slow plasma = poor cut
Plasma weld = oxidized weld
What's the point?

Old 05-22-2012 | 08:34 AM
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I'll stick with my $200.00 flux welder... Works just fine for what I need to weld
Old 05-22-2012 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
This thing uses small amount of water or water/alcohol mix to make a slow moving plasma. Welding with that would be like welding with a poorly adjusted acetylene torch on steroids. Found this vid on utube. Yuck.

Slow plasma = poor cut
Plasma weld = oxidized weld
What's the point?


Those welds look terrible If I'm showcasing a product I'd hire a pro to use the tool.
Old 05-22-2012 | 11:55 AM
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I believe their target group is the weekend welding warriors..

I'll keep the:

Hypertherm 1250 plasma (most patents and lowest consumable cost/cut)
Miller 350P Pulsed wire feed (metal flame spraying monster)
Miller 250 Syncrowave (tig & stick)
Miller FI 250 Bobcat (for the things I cant drag into the shop)
Victor Journeyman Torches

You can never have to many tools - however the shop can be to small
Old 05-22-2012 | 11:56 AM
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I'm thinkin' "Slagmaster" might be a better name for it.....
Old 05-22-2012 | 01:46 PM
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Obviously, it is a multi-use tool. Plasma cut, weld, and can be used on a broad spectrum of metals. One machine taking the place of many. I am happy with my arc, mig, and plasma machines, but I'm sure that the multiplaz has its place. I doubt that they would have invested so much into it if it didn't have possibilities.
Old 05-22-2012 | 02:31 PM
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This reminds me of the old Shopsmith tools that had a lathe, drill press, table saw, disc sander and maybe a ice cream maker all in one tool ......They looked cool but in reality they never really did anything just right.....Combo tools are more gadget than anything else.
Old 05-22-2012 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Shorts
Those welds look terrible If I'm showcasing a product I'd hire a pro to use the tool.
I got a Harbor Freight mig welder, the $300 one for $135 when it was on sale. Ungassed flux core welds on dirty metal come out better than that, and if I get off my dead but, clean up the metal, and go with the solid wire and gas shield, it's downright pretty. I'm getting too shaky to keep a low hydrogen arc going, unless it's hot and heavy.
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Originally Posted by Shorts
Those welds look terrible If I'm showcasing a product I'd hire a pro to use the tool.
perhaps they did...

I would like to see a cross section of that weld to see how well it penetrated.
Old 05-22-2012 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shorts
Those welds look terrible If I'm showcasing a product I'd hire a pro to use the tool.
The pipe welds LOOKED ok. Not so much on the 'T' tho. I thought for a minute someone had turned Blake loose with his stick welder on that one.

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I doubt that they would have invested so much into it if it didn't have possibilities.
You invested in Yugo, didn't you?
Old 05-22-2012 | 09:42 PM
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so under Section IX, would this be qualified as a weld or braze?
Old 05-22-2012 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fronty Owner
so under Section IX, would this be qualified as a weld or braze?
I don't think it would 'qualify' as anything.



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